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August 6, 2004 | 5:31 p.m. ET

Reassuring my pal Joe Trippi (Ron Reagan):

Joe and I first became acquainted at the "kid's table" during MSNBC's Super Tuesday coverage of the Democratic primaries. Joe had, of course, been the architect of Howard Dean's once glorious, energizing campaign — before its death spiral.

RON REAGAN TO SPEAK AT DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION ABOUT STEM CELL RESEARCH
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I have never been the architect of anything but have a unique history which also made me compelling to our boss, Tammy Haddad. Still, neither of us was considered quite heavy enough to take our places with the big boys and girls at the main anchor desk so ably skippered by Chris Mathews. So we were relegated to a couple of stools next to the electronic map which I would use to illustrate various electoral issues both arcane and obvious. The kid's table. Humiliating? Perhaps. But, on the upside, we got to eat cookies and ice cream while the grownups at the big table were presumably fed adult foods like broccoli and liver.

As Joe launched into his first ever on camera riff, I shifted out of view and studied some notes about demographic trends in the Midwest - spellbinding stuff. After a moment or two, I became aware of an odd dissonance in Joe's vocal cadence which I immediately recognized as the left brain/right brain struggle of an innocent man trying to speak sense while someone yelled in his earpiece some bit of stage direction. Joe had been told to speak into the cold eye of a certain camera lens and now, mystifyingly, the control room was screaming at him to "look at the camera". He already was dutifully staring at the prescribed lens and, in an effort to please, simply tried to look harder. Trouble was, they'd told him to look at the wrong camera. Not his fault at all. Still, when your's is the face onscreen, you suffer the humiliation. Poor Joe. 

Let's be clear: Joe, an extremely bright fellow, nonetheless attracts more than his share of embarrassment. It probably doesn't help that he makes Oscar Madison seem like the Duke of Windsor. He doesn't look like an unmade bed so much as one of those dilapidated couches you find squatting in a vacant lot. If only he would allow his charming, genteel wife to dress him. If only he would stop cutting his hair with pruning shears. Not quite the look that appeals to your average TV exec. I love him for it (among many other attributes).

Given all this, we should have seen the Triumph the Comic Insult Dog incident coming from a mile off. Yes, Joe was bumped for a hand-puppet (See Joe's latest post, below). On the humiliation scale, this is second only to being the token liberal on one of those right-wing Fox rant-fests. But it must be said: What a hand-puppet! Triumph got off the line of the night when he observed that our friend Joe Scarborough "swings farther to the right than Marmaduke's pink thing". (Joe S. took this with great good humor, perhaps sensing that he was in the presence of comic genious.)

My advice to Joe: Relax. No, you're not indispensable; none of us are. We are all subject to the whims of the marketplace as reflected in the ludicrous sham we call "ratings". Some management-type we've never met stubs his toe getting out of bed and we're history, a footnote in a TV-Land blooper reel. That's the business we've chosen - or been lured into with promises of fame, riches and decent sandwiches in the Green Room.

Know this , Joe: I'll always have your back... as long as I don't have to claw my way through you on the way to fame, riches etc.

August 5, 2004 | 11:51 a.m. ET

Of plastic dogs and talking elephants (Joe Trippi)

Wow, my column, “Trippi’s Take,” on the two major political parties slipping towards extinction because they are both obsessed with wallowing in politics as usual, sure stirred the pot.  If you missed it – I hope you’ll check it out and let me know what you think by dropping me an email.

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Joe Trippi, before being pulled for Triumph the Wonder Dog.

ack at MSNBC, meanwhile, the saga of my humiliation at the paws of Triumph the Insult Dog during MSNBC’s Convention After Hours Show looks like its going to continue….

Yesterday, I was at MSNBC’s Washington bureau getting ready to go on Hardball with Chris Matthews when I over heard Tammy (my guardian angel boss) talking to Phil (my other boss). Phil was telling Tammy he wanted before and after shots of me and the hand puppet sitting in the same chair on the set posted on Hardblogger as soon as possible!

Tammy didn’t want to do it to me – but Phil is, well, he is crazed, so he always gets his way, and besides he still doesn’t like my haircut. So sometime today I am sure the pics will show up here.

The good news is (I think) that Tammy told me I am going to cover the Republican Convention. Now I have to admit it will be the first Republican Convention of my life. 

But I think Ron Reagan has been to a few so he can give me a few tips on what’s up.

The bad news is that Phil is probably already scheming to bring a plastic dog chomping a cigar, or a stuffed talking elephant on the set in New York to replace me from time to time and keep this sick demented tale of personal humiliation going!

August 5, 2004 | 12:01 a.m. ET

From the Hardblogger mailbag:

More 'After Hours'
"Loved the late night coverage! Joe and Ron and your panel were all entertaining and enlightening.  I’m glad the convention is over, but I wish the late night conversations would continue!" – Mary, Hampton Falls

Mary -- your wish comes true this Thursday and Friday night! Joe Scarborough and Ron Reagan bring you a special edition of 'After Hours' on primetime, at 9 p.m. ET. Check out our schedule at tv.msnbc.com

Are celebrities not 'Hardball' too?
"I chose MSNBC for my view of the Democratic Convention. Even though I was away on vacation, I did watch a lot of the convention. The one thing I was disappointed about was the interviews of the Hollywood folks. When will I be able to escape these knuckleheads? I figured watching a serious news program I would be able to avoid Hollywood! Hopefully for the Republican Convention Hardball doesn't waste time with the out of touch celebrities. Let 'Entertainment Tonight' display their worthless points of view." Gene Sweeney, Spring City, PA

August 4, 2004| 6:03 p.m. ET

So, now that we're getting more of our photos from the DNC coverage developed (and downloaded), we'll start sharing more of them with you on this blog.

Here's one below: It's Willie Brown, Andrea Mitchell, and Joe Scarborough, with MSNBC President Rick Kaplan standing in front of the set.

Do you have pics of Hardball/Faneuil Hall in Boston that you'd like to share with Hardblogger? E-mail us at hardblogger@msnbc. com

August 4, 2004| 4:30 p.m. ET

"Hail to the Buckeyes?" (David Shuster)

Even back here in Washington, D.C., you could feel the Kerry campaign's Michigan advance team cringing.  There was the democratic presidential nominee on tuesday, forgetting where he was, reciting an opening line he had used earlier in neighboring Ohio.  "We just came from Bowling Green, and I was smart enough not to pick a choice between the Falcons and the, you know, all those other teams out there.  I just go for Buckeye football, that's where I'm coming from."  Ouch.  The boos from the Wolverine faithful were awfully loud and should serve as a reminder to both campaigns:  If you are going to suck up, make sure you get it right.

Michigan is the kind of state where a lot of voters don't know or care about campaign policy differences... but can recite the starting backfields of the last 3 teams from that state to win a Rose Bowl.  (Believe me, I know.  I got my undergraduate degree at U-M.)  Throughout the fall, Michigan stadium will pack in 110,000 fans for every home football game.  Another 500,000 will tune in to the Michigan radio network.  Another million plus will watch on TV.  And that's just in-state. The U-M has the largest living alumni body in the world. 

That is a huge block of voters who like to think the next President will know something special about their state, university, or city for that matter.  Is this a fatal gaffe?  Of course not.  And for every Michigan voter (or college friend of mine) who is today calling Kerry a "loser," there is a voter in Ohio who is absolutely delighted the democratic nominee went into enemy territory and dissed the Wolverines.  Still, this isn't the first time John Kerry has ventured into sports and blundered.  Two weeks ago, he couldn't keep his own Red Sox straight... merging Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz into "Manny Ortiz."

Yes, a presidential candidate gets exhausted.  Yes, the crowds begin to look the same.  And yes, it's difficult to remember which sports team to salute when you hit 4 different states in a day.  But, if you are going to offer some red meat that has nothing to do with politics... be careful.  Big Ten fans can be awfully fickle... and most of them are already bitter about all of those losses in Pasadena. 

August 4, 2004| 2:40 p.m. ET

On the show tonight (Dominic Bellone, Hardball producer and newsletter editor)

Tonight we'll talk to fmr. Colorado Senator & presidential candidate Gary Hart (a cat who was calling for a Homeland Security department before calling for a Homeland Security department was cool) about the latest terror threat warning and his new book "The Fourth Power: A Grand Strategy for the United States in the Twenty-First Century"... Sounds positively Kissingerian to me folks.

Newsday columnist Marie Cocco, who wrote a piece this week on Kerry's bid for disillusioned Republicans, will be on 'Hardball' to chat about undecided and cross over voters.

Ret. General Barry McCaffrey is back from Afghanistan and Pakistan where he toured around those countries at the behest of U.S. Central Command...We'll get a firsthand account from the front line of America's war on terrorism.

Remember that ad spot we promised from David Shuster yesterday? It's back!  We'll roll it and then get reax from GOP ad gal Kim Alfano and Dem consultant/uber-blogger Joe Trippi who has a new book out titled "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" in which Joe describes being part of an actual online funeral for a real person...No joke...That's not actually the whole book but certainly one of the more unique episodes in Joe's life...It's a great book I'm reading on the Metro ride home.

Shoot us an e-mail when the spirit moves you!

August 3, 2004 | 3:51 p.m. ET

What's in a name? (David Shuster) As Hardball's election correspondent, I'm often asked by friends and family about the "intensity" of the presidential campaign. Today, I've been staring at an e-mail with the answer. In my Outlook queue is a press release from the Republican National Committee. It says:

"Despite his claim, Senator Kerry has frequently referred to President Bush in his campaign stops."

The entire press release is about the fact that John Kerry refers to President Bush by name. Not that Kerry calls him disparaging names, or makes crude jokes about female body parts a la Whoopi Goldberg, but rather that John Kerry mentions him at all.

Why is this important? I haven't the foggiest idea. I mean, I understand that Kerry a few weeks ago said he refers to the President as President Bush. Last week, he even called him "George Bush."

Still, It is hard to imagine how this distinction, during a stump speech, might threaten the Republic. But the fact is there are people at the Republican National Committee who have probably spent a few hours putting this press release together.

The DNC press releases can be just as useless. Isn't it all so sad? I mean, a decrepid and garbage strewn D.C. neighborhood sits just a few blocks from both the RNC and DNC headquarters. And yet some people in those office buildings are focused on the most trivial and banal political distinctions ever. Pathetic? Yes. A sign of the campaign intensity? You bet.

August 3, 2004 | 1:47 p.m. ET

Old news is good news? (Dominic Bellone, Hardball producer and newsletter editor) Somewhat disturbing and confusing news this morning as we're learning the intelligence that lead to the heightened terror threat alert was three or more years old. What do we know and when did we know it? What does this say about our government's ability to stay on top of these terrorist threats? How accurate are these warnings and what are we supposed to do about it? And what does it all mean for campaign 2004?

We turned to our all star panel of journalists for answers: Judith Miller of The New York Times, Tony Blankley of The Washington Times and Dana Priest of The Washington Post.

In the back half of the show we turn to HBO funny man Bill Maher who'll talk about everything from the latest terror threat, to Bush-Kerry to Fahrenheit 9/11 and whatever else happens to pop up...The fun thing about Bill is that you never really know what'll come out of his mouth next.

Thanks for all the folks who braved the weather last night to join us at Sequoia! Everyone appeared to be enjoying themselves and we had plenty of t-shirts to go 'round.

August 3, 2004 | 1:08 p.m. ET

Oh Chris! (Joe Trippi) Okay, sorry, but when I found out about a blog dedicated to Chris Matthews I had to go check it out and bring it to your attention.

It’s the “Oh Chris” Blog and its….well, I think I ought to quote from the blog itself. It's:

“Devoted to the most brilliant television commentator of all time, in appreciation of his 18-hour work days and complete disregard for punditry norms.”

So who writes this blog of devotion to Hardball’s Chris Matthews?

Turns out its none other than Wonkette.

Just another couple of interesting links for people to check out around the blogosphere.

BTW, my new column should be up on MSNBC’s Hardball page – today’s Trippi’s Take is on why I think the two major parties need to change or die.

Keep the emails coming – and let me know what you think.  I have no idea when I will be on the air again – I think Triumph the Insult Dog is long gone from the set – but who knows who or what they will replace me with next!  

August 3, 2004 | 11:19 a.m. ET

Mad for ads (David Shuster) "We've got a hot package Tuesday on the latest battles in the campaign 'ad war.' This is the time of year the democrats had feared.

Kerry is on public financing and is limited to spending $75 million between now and election day.

President Bush will have the same $75 million limit, but his tab doesn't start running until he officially accepts the nomination at his convention in September. In the meantime, the Bush campaign is loaded and is pressing the financial advantage today with a new round of tv ads.

The Kerry campaign is dark. But "friendly" organizations like The Media Fund are "stepping into the void" as one strategist put it to me over the phone earlier today. We'll explain."

August 3, 2004 | 8:20 a.m. ET

Fraud at the Fleet Center (Pat Buchanan)

By morning of the day John Kerry accepted his nomination, it was clear the Kerry Party at the Fleet Center was perpetrating a fraud on the delegates and on the nation. And many in the Big Media were going along.

Consider. Among the more than 4000 delegates, two passions were predominant:

  • Detestation of Bush;
  • hostility to his Iraq war.

Delegates were as united in their desire to get out of Iraq as they were to get out of Vietnam at the McGovern convention of 1972.

Yet, in prime-time speeches, George W. Bush's name had barely been even mentioned. And, on the Iraq war, Sen. John Edwards, the vice presidential nominee, declared, "We will win this war because of the strength and the courage of our people."

"We will win this war," Edwards said. Kerry has said he would be wiling to send additional U.S. troops to fight and win it.

But what if Kerry and Edwards win in November and it becomes clear that for America to win in Iraq will require more than the 140,000 troops already there?

Will Kerry, who would then be leading a nation that already believes this war was a mistake, and a party that believes it was an unnecessary and unwise, if not unjust and immoral war, be able to unite their party and the country behind the commitment of thousands of more of America's young?

Would Howard Dean and Teddy Kennedy, both of whom opposed the war, back a Kerry war policy? Would the black leaders of the party like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Charlie Rangel, who want the troops home now, support sending more troops to fight to win this war? Would President Carter support more U.S. ground forces?

These are not academic questions. There is a 50-50 chance Kerry and Edwards will win and America will face that situation in January. For it appears today that if we are not willing to commit additional U.S. forces, for a longer time than previously thought, we cannot win the war.

The day Edwards declared the United States will "win" this war, a suicide bomber in Baquba killed 68 Iraqi police recruits and wounded 58 in one of the deadliest attacks since the war began. Nor was that the sole incident on Edwards' big day.

As the AP reported, "Elsewhere U.S. and other forces were caught in fierce gun battles ... including a fight with militants who are thought to have entered from neighboring Iran." In that battle, 42 died on both sides, 10 Iraqi security police were wounded and 40 enemy were captured. A Polish major would not say whether the captured enemy were Iranians.

The AP story continues: "Nearly 1,000 Iraqi civilians and security personnel have been killed or wounded in guerrilla attacks since the U.S.-led coalition handed power to an Iraqi government, a senior U.S. official told Reuters news agency."

In The American Conservative for August 30, foreign policy scholar Andrew Bacevich writes, "History suggests that one precondition for defeating guerrillas is overwhelming numerical superiority, with a ratio of 10:1 traditionally cited as the minimum requirement. Even counting the fledgling Iraqi army, allied contingents (some of dubious quality) and the modern-day mercenaries known as private contractors, counterinsurgent forces available in Iraq today fall well short of that 10:`1 standard.

A year ago, U.S. Gen. John Abizaid estimated there were 5000 insurgents.

Yet, after a year in which U.S. forces killed and captured thousands, official estimates of enemy strength are now at 20,000 and the incidence of attacks on U.S. troops and our Iraqi allies is continuously rising.

Writes Bacevich: "How many U.S. troops do we actually need to pacify Iraq, a landmass the size of California, with long, open borders and an increasingly alienated population of 25 million? A quarter of a million soldiers -- almost twice the number currently deployed -- would not be too many."

While he admonishes America's generals not to replicate the moral failure of Vietnam -- refusing to tell civilian superiors what was needed to win -- Bacevich suggests it is also a time for truth for the White House. "Either the Bush administration needs to get serious about winning the war that it so recklessly sought in Iraq, or it needs to cut its losses."

Kerry and Edwards, as well as Bush and Cheney, need to tell us how much blood and treasure they are willing to expend on a democratic Iraq, how many more troops will be needed and for how long, and what are the chances of victory.

And we need to be told before November.

We need to be given a cold, hard, honest assessment of what we hope to gain there, and what it will cost this nation, so we can decide whether or not we wish to pay that price. We need a honest election. As a beginning of that election, this week's fraud at the Fleet Center failed the test.

August 2, 2004 | 5:40 p.m. ET

Ron on tap: You'll remember that Ron Reagan, while in Boston, pub-crawled with some youngsters and talked to them about their thoughts on voting and politics. (Click here for that post from Ron.)  Tonight, during the 7 p.m. ET hour, watch Ron's taped piece on what the youth think of the Battle for the White Hosue 2004.

He'll also be on the "Tonight Show with Jay Leno" tonight (11:35 p.m. ET) with Brittany Murphy and musical guest "The Hives."

August 2, 2004 | 5:00 p.m. ET

From the Hardblogger mailbag:

"Concerned Voter" from Wilmington, DE calls attention to a Newsweek article:
"No Convention bounce!!! That is the latest on the Kerry/Edwards team. It is interesting to note that Gallup says so but Newsweek says 'wait a minute.' This must be a cause of concern for the Kerry/Edwards camp. I guess they need to change their strategy if they want to make a big dent in the Bush/Cheney ticket."

Rich Jackson, from Beavercreek replies to a previous Hardblogger e-mail:
"By way of a reply to Kathy M. of West Grove, and anyone else wondering if the Presidential candidates will keep their 'promises' after they are elected: Keep this in mind while you are listening to those 'promises.' The President of the United States does NOT have the individual power to accomplish many (if not most) of what they promise during campaigns. Especially if it is something that requires funding. Most of the 'promises' we hear during the campaign, from any party or candidate, are really the things they want to do, and will try to do, but in most cases CAN NOT do unless they have a Congress that will go along with them."

August 2, 2004 | 3:30 p.m. ET

More live 'Hardball' (Dominic Bellone, Hardball producer and newsletter editor)

Tonight, we're doing something special and we'd like you to join us, those of you in the greater DC area.  We're broadcasting live from Sequoia restaurant at 3000 K St., NW on the Georgetown waterfront.  Locals know where I'm talking about.  We invite all to come, watch the show, meet Chris and have some fun.  We'll have a limited number of Hardball hats which we'll hand out on a first come, first served basis. We'll also have some cool T-Shirts as well. (But only if you stay for the 9 pm show!) And if you have a cool Hardball sign we might even put you on TV.

GeorgeWBush.com has already called their troops to rally outside the live taping.

August 2, 2004 | 9:50 p.m. ET

Still recovering from the Final Humiliation (Joe Trippi) I haven’t been able to post over the weekend because it wasn’t until this morning that I realized I had to move on, had to let go of the humiliation and defeat— put one foot in front of the other and face the fact— that it had not been a nightmare it had indeed happened —  I had been removed from the set of MSNBC’s After Hours show to make room for a hand puppet!   

For those of you who missed Triumph the Insult Dog’s post convention commentary last Thursday night on MSNBC, let me explain.    Joe Scarborough and Ron Reagan co-hosted the show all week.  I thought we had gotten along well enough during the week that they were my friends, that they would stick up for me— instead they both just waved “bye-bye” to me when the producers came to drag me off the set to make room for the show’s new guest Triumph the hand puppet.

I looked to Dee Dee Myers for help— but she told me that she had waited a long time to work with a hand puppet on air. 

Carl Bernstein— a serious journalist— certainly he would rather reveal who Deep Throat is to me instead of a plastic dog chomping on a cigar!  But no—  to my horror even Bernstein laughed with relish as they took me away.  

It turned out, as I should have suspected, that the order came directly from my boss Phil (the crazed Yankee fan)—  he didn’t like my haircut, and besides someone had to make room for the puppet— “might as well be Trippi,” he said.

In a roller coaster year of Triumph and humiliation— on the last night of the convention I experienced both— and if you were watching I hope you enjoyed the show.

(Click here to read Joe's last post.)


August 2, 2004 | 9:30 a.m. ET

From the Hardblogger mail bag:

On the recent terror alert:
"Why does the administration feel it necessary to start this terror stuff and then go on to say 'we don't know when or where and we must continue to do our daily task.' If we cannot do anything, then why warn us and tell us not to do anything? At least with tornado warnings we can prepare. This is just the Republicans hoping Bush looks alert (not like 9/11.)" -L. Treadway, Union

Where is Hardblogger?
"Hey. It's Mon. 2 Aug. I'm still seeing July 29 and 30th stuff. Wha sup?" -Alicia Price, St. Petersburg,Fl

On Kerry's speech accepting the nomination:
"Do you want to know what bothers me, I just hope Kerry keeps all of what he has said he would do if he goes to the White House. They all— and I mean all— say one thing and do something very different once in the big house. What do you think? Because there is a lot of people in the house and so on they all have good ideas but when they get there it all goes by the way side!" - Kathy M., West Grove

July 30, 2004 | 5:53 p.m. ET

So if you don't see any more posts today, forgive us— Monday will be better.

In the meantime, click here to read what Chris Matthews and his panel said immediately after Sen. Kerry's speech.

Will they have changed their opinions) less than 24 hours after? As Andrea Mitchell said last night, "I think a lot of questions should be raised and are going to be raised in the next few days about his points on trade, tax cuts, the promises, what Howard [Fineman] called 'the laundry list,' because it simply doesn’t add up."

Bush-Cheney spokesman, Terry Holt, and Democratic strategist, Steve McMahon talk about the direction of the country under Pres. Bush. How it would be different with Kerry-Edwards? That's tonight, 7 p.m. ET on Hardball.

July 30, 2004 | 2:20 p.m. ET

Hey, Hardbloggers. Our contributors are currently either waking up/recovering from four days of straight work (six days, if you consider starting on Saturday), or in transit, but they'll start posting here as soon as they get their cup of coffee.

In the meantime, here's what some of you e-mailed us about last night's coverage:

"Hey Chris, as a regular watcher of Hardball and a lifetime resident of Boston, I just wanted to email you and thank you guys for doing such a good job and helping represent my city.  It was so obvious how much fun you had in Fanuiel Hall.  You even mentioned last night how you wish the convention wasn't ending.  I wish it wasn't ending either.  I truly enjoyed the attention and exposure Boston got all over the world, had fun at the parties, and looked forward to your coverage of an event that I never would have watched so much of if you weren't running the show.  I can only watch so many political speeches in the course of a week without getting sick to my stomach, but your coverage was great." -Drew Gullotti, Boston, MA

"Last night's coverage was great...until Joe "Rain Cloud" Scarborough decided to ruin the parade. While his view that Kerry's speech may have been improved with a little slower pacing is legitimate, the viewers didn't need to hear him expounding on that point for 10 minutes. And refusing to leave it behind. Thankfully, Andrea Mitchell was there to admonish him on his comparison of Kerry's speech to the JFK and Reagan famous speeches, neither of which was a convention speech." -Anonymous

  
Click here to read more viewer e-mail. Stay tuned, we'll be posting more.

And just for fun, here's some video of "Triumph the Insult Comic Dog" from last night's "After Hours" show. (Click on the photo).

July 29, 2004 | 11:33 p.m. ET

Rising to the occasion (Joe Trippi) The stakes were high and John Kerry responded by delivering the speech of his life. Frankly, I could have lived with out the “My name is John Kerry, and I am reporting for duty” line and a few of the other hokey lines that were sprinkled here and there in his acceptance speech.

But for those who have complained that the man lacks passion, Kerry showed his fire tonight.  I wasn’t surprised.  I had seen it before in the closing days of the Iowa Caucus campaign – he always rises to the moment – always.  So the Bush folks should think twice about underestimating him.

But I think he scored more than the usual positive momentum with his words tonight – I think he put Bush on the defensive and framed the race in a way that boxes Bush into a corner that will be very difficult to get out of.

More on why I think so on the “Convention After Hours Show,” starting in just a few minutes.

But the Kerry Campaign scored big tonight. My favorite line? “My fellow citizens, the outcome is in your hands more than mine.” Those are words I can believe in.

July 29, 2004 | 8:27 p.m. ET

Blogs and generals (Keith Olbermann) Do you do anything while you watch the Convention?

I've spent most of the last two days trying to follow current events with one eye, and predict future ones with the other.

This all started when I was reminded that it'll be Max Cleland introducing John Kerry for his acceptance speech tonight.

Sure, Cleland can wave, in the vivid imagery of the Civil War, the "bloody shirt" of his controversial Senate loss in Georgia two years ago.

But moreover, Cleland's war service - he lost three limbs in Vietnam - simply can't be missed for the symbolism it is. It underscores his military service, and John Kerry's too.

Your instinctive reaction to the terms "American President" and "War Hero" is probably that they're virtually unconnected. We like to think that. Our history suggests otherwise. Fully 18 of our 43 Presidents have had war records significant enough to have campaigned on.

Some of our generals proceed almost directly from the fight to the White House. In 1951, Dwight Eisenhower was still refusing to acknowledge if he was a Democrat or a Republican.

A year later he was President-Elect.

General Zachary Taylor won his last battle in the Mexican War just two years and seven days before he was sworn in as President. The Civil War transformed Ulysses S. Grant from being a clerk in his father's leather goods store in 1861, to the White House in 1869 - and four later presidents also served in the war that made Grant famous.

Military glory can put roller skates on presidential candidates, but as Kerry has already learned, it is hardly a decisive factor. And something bordering on military dishonor seems to be even less relevant. Grover Cleveland was twice elected president of this country - and he bought his way out of serving in the Civil War. In one of his victories, he even beat Civil War vet Benjamin Harrison.

Bill Clinton knocked off two bona fide World War II heroes in George H.W. Bush, Distinguished Flying Cross Winner, and Bob Dole, whose arm was shattered by Nazi gunfire in Italy in 1945.

In fact, 31 times, our elections have seen what we may broadly call "war heroes" face off against what we may broadly call "civilians." The "heroes" have won 16 times, but the "civilians" are on a six-of-seven winning streak (Bush II, Clinton, Clinton, Reagan, Nixon, Johnson). Nixon himself defeated a war hero, B-24 bomber pilot and Distinguished Flying Cross winner George McGovern, in 1972.

Moreover, this exact scenario of Bush versus Kerry - an incumbent "civilian" president running against a challenger "war hero" - has happened six times, and only once has the warrior unseated the incumbent.

That was in 1840 - William Henry Harrison over Martin Van Buren. "Old Tippecanoe," retrieved from the proverbial retirement in a log cabin, had been a hero of the War of 1812, and had joined the military nearly half a century before He got himself elected, and then he got himself pneumonia (reputedly at his own inauguration) - and he was dead, 32 days into his presidency.

Not wishing Senator Kerry any bad luck - but as the British would say, for presidential campaign purposes, military heroism is a great starter, but apparently a poor finisher.

July 29, 2004 | 7:59 p.m. ET

Out there in the blogosphere (Joe Trippi) A nod to Hardball's populist set up here in Boston from TheCommandPost.

July 29, 2004 | 7:55 p.m. ET

Lunatics and louts  (Joe Scarborough) The crowds continue to grow around the late night (and early morning) set of MSNBC's convention coverage here at Faneuil Hall. As it is in the convention center, the buzz seems to grow by the hour as Boston prepares to welcome it's not-so-favorite son home.

That's not to say that the teeming masses of Democrats aren't excited about the possibility of removing George W. from the White House. They are. But the chatter continues to center on what a putrid waste of bone marrow the president of these United States is. I have yet to meet one Democrat in all of Boston who tells me why they are excited about candidate John Kerry. It smells like Bob Dole's 1996 candidacy all over again.

Speaking of smelling, a few in our After Hours crowd got nasty the past few nights. On Tuesday a crazed audience member lunged at me while screaming at the top of her lungs. Sadly, it wasn't a fit of post-modern Beatlemania. It was just a lunatic. Then last night, a drunk frat boy started heckling Ron Reagan during break shouting that his father was rolling over in his grave.

I never knew Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan wasn't a friend of mine. But I do know a helluva lot more about being a father than the drunk jackass in last night's crowd. And I can assure you that Ronald Reagan the father would be extremely proud of a son who dared to fight for a cause that he knew was just. Years from now when I am in a better place, I can only hope my children will have grown up to be adults willing to stand up and be counted when others sit back and say nothing.

July 29, 2004 | 7:09 p.m. ET

The wrap gap (Joe Trippi) There seems to be subtext running through my travails at this convention. See, I finally get a Fleet Center credential – I mean, I actually saw the inside of the place today and I was psyched.

Then I get back to Hardblogger HQ and find out that the NBC “wrap party” runs from 11:30 p.m. to 1:30 a.m., and that, as a member of the MSNBC After Hours family, I’ve been invited.

Only one problem: MSNBC’s “Convention After Hours” doesn’t end ‘til 2 a.m!

Then comes the kicker: my boss Phil, hands me a $5 bill and tells me to go get a haircut.

Want to see what kind of haircut you get for $5 in Boston? Tune into MSNBC “Convention After Hours” at midnight. I’ll be there, while Phil, his wallet $5 lighter, goes to some cool wrap party.

(By the way, the Atrios revelation promised earlier is still coming. Check out the Stakeholder for more).

July 29, 2004 | 6:11 p.m. ET

The platform gap (Pat Buchanan) The one card that keeps John Kerry in the game is his service in Vietnam. He must keep it front and center.  For the contrast between his service and that of Bush & Cheney is his sole claim to be commander-in-chief. His voting record in Congress is that of a man of the Left.

However, Kerry’s problem not only in how he crafts his speech, but in the reaction to it by the instant analysts of the media. For Kerry is a man of contradictions.  He seems the living embodiment of the late Sen. Henry Ashurst’s observation: “The clammy hand of consistency should not rest for long on the shoulder of a statesman.”

While Kerry fought in Vietnam and was wounded and decorated, he came home to be a strident anti-war leader who accused fellow soldiers of indiscriminate atrocities. While he speaks of strength, his voting record in Congress is not unfairly cited as anti-defense. While his convention is determinedly anti-war, and Kerry voted against providing the $87 billion to consolidate America’s victory, his vice president said last night: “We will win this war because of the strength and courage of our people.”    

Both David Broder of the Washington Post and and Robert Novak of the Chicago Sun-Times today are pointing up the gap, reaching a gulf, between what this convention believes and what its platform says. Not even mentioned in that document is the party and Kerry position on partial-birth abortion, gay marriage, the death penalty, drilling in the ANWAR or the Kyoto Protocol.

Kerry will try to thread a needle tonight, but that is not the way to rally a nation.  He has a hellish problem. Bush & Cheney will soon be driving wedges between the Kerry of the podium — and the Kerry of the primaries and the past twenty years. For Kerry the problem is, there is lots of driving room here.

July 29, 2004 | 5:25 p.m. ET

Heading for home (Dominic Bellone, Hardball producer and newsletter editor) We've got just one more day to go here folks and tonight's the big grand finale: John Kerry's speech. Brian Doherty, our producing spy at the "Tong", the Kerry camp's briefing for the networks, reports that Kerry's speech will be 50-55 minutes long! So not only should you break out the popcorn but also the coffee.

Brian also hears that the speech hopes to achieve several things: Inspire confidence in his leadership abilities. "He's the right man for the right times." They further inform us that these are "serious" times. When are they not?

Kerry also plans to provide insight into himself, his values and where he wants to take the country. Finally, the speech promises to take "a step ahead, continue building and consolidating the vote," whatever that means. Another phrase we're hearing is "serious times call for serious people."

For What It's Worth: P Diddy (or is he back to "Puffy"?) has been making the rounds promoting his "vote or die" project and this morning our own MSNBC Correspondent/Hardblogger Chris Jansing interviewed him. Towards the end he asked her, "Are you gonna get down with this?" which I roughly interpreted as, "Are you going to vote and encourage your friends to vote?" Chris responded with something like "Are you kidding? Of course I am!" Ron Reagan interviewed Diddy today and we'll "chunk" it tonight.

Our All-Star panelists: (Dee Dee Myers, Ron Reagan, David Gergen, plus Howard Fineman, Willie Brown, Andrea Mitchell & Joe Scarborough) are back at 6 & 8 p.m. ET. We're on the air until midnight and then Joe Scarborough Ron Reagan host Joe Trippie and othres and break out the smooth jazz theme music for "Convention After Hours."

Ooh, sounds dangerous...

July 29, 2004 | 2:13 p.m. ET

From the Hardblogger mail box:

Re: After Hours

From: Marilyn Trudeau

Absolutely love "After Hours." It's better than any prime time show on the networks. As a life-long Democrat, I'm really enjoying the convention. One thing I can't figure out is why it is so difficult for people to understand Kerry's position on the Iraq war. As Colin Powell said "We broke it, we fix it." Although many of us believe that it was wrong, we are there now, and we have to do our best to make it come out right. This is what John Kerry is trying to do.

Re: Actors

From: Richard Drong, Chicago

What makes everyone think that actors are imminently qualified to lead the public to Kerry. They must have guilty consciences about all the $$$ they’re making and want to get down in the trenches with the rest of us.

Re: Terry Jeffrey’s post

From: Steve Leonard, Big Sandy, TX

Anyone who thinks that the Dems values are any different than Rep values is fooling himself. We all want pretty much the same things, though we may have different ideas about the most effective way to get them. People need to quit acting like the other side has less claim to the light.

Re: On Chris Jansing

From: A Fan, New York, N.Y.

Chris Jansing says people want to take Brokaw's or Williams' picture - I'd much rather have hers! Her coverage has added a lot to campaign '04, not just in substance but style. She says she's "tired," but you wouldn't know it from looking at her.

July 29, 2004 | 2:40 p.m. ET

Cruzin’ for a bruisin’ (David Shuster) It's a complicated story, but I ended up at the Roxy last night for the "Latino coalition party." 

It was quite a scene. Lots of great salsa music, some scantily clad ladies on the dance floor who did not look like delegates, and more than a few politicians who looked like politicians. 

Anyway, sometime around 1 a.m., I was flirting with my very cute friend Alethea, and out of the corner of my eye, I see a familiar figure headed my way.  I said to myself, "Where do I know that guy from?"  Suddenly it dawned on me: It was Cruz Bustamante, the Lieutenant Governor of California (yes, still!)

Cruz was always interesting to cover during the recall. He infuriated some Democrats by putting himself on the recall ballot, and he had quite a prickly relationship with Gray Davis and the media.  Anyway, last night, he walked past me grinning from ear-to-ear, and said, "watch your moves."  I don’t think he was talking about my dancing.  Poor Cruz.

July 29, 2004 | 1:45 p.m. ET

Star power (Chris Jansing) Another marathon day is well underway. If it’s anything like Wednesday, I’m glad this is Day 4.

At some early Thursday morning, after being on the air, on and off, for more than 14 hours, the team of interns helping us on the convention floor insisted that I report the following:

Wednesday was a day of contrasts -- where before 10 a.m., my pants tore on some equipment, requiring an emergency purchase, and later my lip inexplicably started bleeding, much to the horror of the makeup artist. On the up side, I spent some time on the MSNBC platform -- one of the best seats in the house -- with Rob Reiner and then Ben Affleck. I met Reiner first during the 36-day election dispute in Tallahassee. He's working hard for the Kerry campaign -- as well as on a new movie. Both these actors know a lot about state-by-state politics. Affleck says he'll go wherever the campaign sends him -- Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan.

Affleck, whose doings here have tongues wagging (the Boston Herald even claims the Kerry sisters are “vying for his affection") is big on the conventional wisdom that it's all about Ohio. Both men were very gracious about the fans who asked for photos and autographs.

Sarah Jessica Parker also walked by (my cameraman was swooning) and I caught up with her former cast-mate, Cynthia Nixon, who was shooting some kind of documentary of what was happening. 

Here's what I'm adding to this blog: if star sightings keeps my fabulous interns working these long hours with great skill and good humor -- I'm all for it!

July 29, 2004 | 12:11 p.m. ET

The 'liberal twin Johns' (Conservative magazine editor Terry Jeffrey) The Democrats are the party of traditional American values? Yeah, right.


Yet this assertion is one of the three dominant messages (the other two are that the Kerry/Edwards ticket is for a strong national defense and populist economics) that the Boston Democrats are praying swing voters will take from John Edward's speech Wednesday night. ‘Yeah, right’ is how I suspect many will respond. Cultural conservatives won't be shouting ‘Amen’ to the preaching of the liberal Twin Johns.

Edwards said last night:

"Where I come from, you don't judge somebody's values based upon how they use that word in a political ad. You judge their values based upon what they've spent their life doing. ..John [Kerry] is a man who knows the difference between right and wrong."

This sounds like it was shoved through the same baloney grinder that produced Tom Daschle's speech the night before. Said Daschle:

"Doing right by America means that we don't just talk about our values; we live them.  And we honor the fundamental difference between right and wrong."

Living our values the John Kerry way apparently means telling the Dubuque Telegraph Herald as Kerry did this month, "I believe life does begin at conception," then maintaining your position that even partial-birth abortion should be legal.

Three quick conclusions:

  • The manifest Democratic strategy emerging from this convention demonstrates that despite the assumption of many pundits that the swing vote in American presidential elections is "moderate," the Democrats themselves believe it is conservative on national security and cultural issues,
  • the Democrats are right about this, and,
  • Their strategy depends on voters not looking past their rhetoric to Kerry's and Edward's voting records.

July 29, 2004 | 10:36 p.m. ET

Will the real Atrios please stand up? (Joe Trippi)
Last night, The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) laid down a few bucks and threw a party for all the accredited bloggers at the convention.  I was running late, (as usual), but was glad I made it to the "Blogger Bash."

The cool part was putting faces to the names behind these blogs I’ve read so avidly but had never met in person. And among the list of my favorite blogs is Atrios’ Eschaton.

Atrios has been noted in the blogger community for keeping his privacy— and therefore his true identity under wraps. So last night, I wasn’t surprised to see every single blogger at the party wearing a name tag — the problem was they all had the same name on their tag — and that name was “Atrios.”  All the bloggers banding together in a valiant attempt to help Atrios stay incognito one last time.

It was like the opening of that old TV show, “What’s My Line?” – Where everyone on the show claimed to be the same person and the goal was to find the real person among them.

I spent an hour roaming the room — but it was tough — I looked down at the name tag the dastardly DCCC staffer had pasted on me as I entered the room — you guessed it... the name on the tag was “Atrios.” So even the DCCC was in on it.

Finally I tried the only tactic left — and simply yelled out, “Okay folks, which of you *$*#(@!* people is Atrios!"

And with that the real Atrios stuck out his hand and he said it was Okay for the DCCC photographer to take a picture of us together.

So sometime later today (after someone from last night’s blogger bash wakes up and posts the damn thing) you can read more on the bash plus find out some of the skinny on Atrios and what he looks like over at the DCCC blog or right back here at Hardblogger!

So bookmark us – and as soon as we have it so will you. See you all on the "After Hours" show late tonight for more convention and blogger news.

July 29, 2004 | 10:00 p.m. ET

From the Hardblogger mail bag:

Anticipating Kerry
Just finished watching Elizabeth Edwards and John Edwards speak.  Oh, boy, HOPE IS ON ITS WAY!  I can't wait to hear John Kerry speak tomorrow night!  We, as Americans, have many issues to tackle and overcome.  -Carol VanCoeur, Mt. Penn, PA

On John Edwards
It was a surreal moment right out of 1984 when the "Hope is on the way!" placards popped up in the hall the second the words were uttered by John Edwards. It undercut Edwards' sincerity and made one start to wonder about the home movies Kerry staged in Vietnam.  Have we entered the realm of Reaganesque reality (Ronald not Ron, Jr.) where acting sincere is far, far more important than being sincere? -Robert Mann, Oneida, NY

I am an avid Democrat and My Mother who is an avid Republician told me tonight that John Edwards did a great job tonight. That is saying something to me. -Jim Wright, Terre Haute, Indiana

Lots of love for Al Sharpton
Hurray for Al Sharpton and any others like him!!  You guys are blind if you think Sharpton hurts the campaign.  Thank God he was in some of those debates or most of the candidates would have continued to dance around the issues like they have for the past 12yrs! – Sarah, Florida

On the Steve Buscemi interview
Tony Soprano killed Steve Buscemi (Tony Blundetto) more gently than Chris did on Wednesday night.  Oh-My-God.  "you knew there were no weapons of mass destruction, didn't you Steve?"  Hilarious.  That's why we love you, Chris. -Rick Brooks, White Plains, NY

On Frank Luntz’s focus group
It would be very sad that the fate of this country would be decided by a few "loosely screwed heads undecided". The choice here is not which candidate is better qualified. The choice here is whether you can stand another four years of Bush or not. Forget about issues, "values..." By now you should know.- Nguyen Nguyen, Ellettsvile

Good luck on the bar
I just love this blog.  I am gratified that there are views expresed by Republicans, Democrats and Independents...that's what makes this country great.  Well done. I'm taking the CA Bar and the Hardblogger is a welcome respite from the stress and rigors of studying.  Many of my co-applicants agree! -Lisa M. Hatch, San Francisco



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