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Denny Heck for Congress
Democratic congressional hopeful Denny Heck campaigns at Cheese Days in Toledo, Wash.
By Tom Curry National affairs writer
msnbc.com
updated 9/20/2010 4:43:45 PM ET 2010-09-20T20:43:45

This year, Republicans are running against big government; Democrats are defending the policies of Congress and President Barack Obama.

But in Washington’s Third Congressional District, the Republican candidate has spent her career in government; the Democratic candidate is the one touting his private-sector experience in “starting companies, growing companies, [and] creating jobs.”

The Democrat, Denny Heck, 58, served as chief of staff to Gov. Booth Gardner from 1989 to 1993 and as state House majority leader in the early 1980s. He also started the cable television channel that broadcasts the Washington legislature and state agencies.

Heck knows government inside and out, and discusses topics such as electronic medical records with the relish of a policy wonk.

Conservative group attacks Democrat Heck
Americans for Prosperity spent $180,000 for a TV ad buy in Washington’s Third Congressional District.

Government service 'a long time ago'
Yet when reminded that he knows government as an insider, Heck testily says, “That was a long time ago. I haven’t been in public office in 25 years.” That’s partly in reaction to a TV ad run by the group Americans for Prosperity which attacks Heck as “a 30-year political insider and a career politician” and links him to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

Heck’s opponent, Jaime Herrera, 31, was born when Heck was in his first term as a state legislator. In a year of crusading conservative GOP candidates, Herrera stands out by her earnest, soft-spoken, and gentle manner. It’s simply impossible to imagine her shouting “You lie!” to Obama during a joint session of Congress, as Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., did.

Herrera said people shouldn’t misjudge her mild manner as a sign of “lack of outrage over what’s happening. Just because I don’t pound the table doesn’t mean I am not terrified of the direction our country is going.”

A must-hold district for Democrats
Stretching from the state capitol, Olympia, to the suburbs of Portland, Ore., the district has been represented by Democrat Brian Baird for the past 12 years. It voted for President Obama in the 2008 election with 53 percent of the vote.

It’s a district Heck pretty much has to hold for Pelosi to retain control of the House. Underscoring the importance of the race, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee said this week it has reserved $650,000 worth of television ad time in the district to help Heck.

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Before Baird, the seat was held by conservative Republican Linda Smith and before her by liberal Democrat Jolene Unsoeld, whom Smith defeated in the GOP wave of 1994.

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To win, Heck is distancing himself from Pelosi and the Democratic House majority he seeks to join.

According to Federal Election Commission records, his campaign has gotten $24,000 in funding from Pelosi and Democratic leadership campaign committees.

But when asked whether he’d he vote for Pelosi as speaker next January if the Democrats hold their majority, Heck replied, “I wouldn’t pledge my vote ahead of time to anyone without having had the opportunity to talk with them about what is it we can do together to help get people back to work.”

Getting people jobs is even more urgent here than elsewhere: Clark County, the district’s most populous county, has an unemployment rate upwards of 13 percent.

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Heck supports a $30 billion plan to have the Treasury purchase stakes in local banks to encourage them to lend to small firms. He favors a tax cut for employers who show net increases in employment.

But he’s not preaching the Keynesian gospel of deficit spending: he’d require increases in spending to be offset by cuts elsewhere or by new revenue.

“The last time I checked only about half of the (stimulus) money that was appropriated for public infrastructure, roads and bridges, had been spent,” Heck said.

“They promised us this money would be temporary, targeted and timely. Well, it’s going to be temporary — it better be temporary, because we cannot afford it on an ongoing basis. But it’s not targeted; there’s not a close enough tether between these investments and high unemployment areas. And it’s certainly not timely, because we’ve only spent half of it.”

He added, “So don’t confuse me with somebody that thinks that Congress has done this in a really good way. I don’t.”

But Heck hasn’t given up on infrastructure spending. Whenever there’s a recession, he said, “We ought to have teed up the shovel-ready public work projects for roads, bridges, sewers, and port improvements that will lay the foundation for economic growth.”

Some deep reservations on health care law
He’s also critical of parts of the Democrats’ health care law.

“It’s a step, but it’s not far enough.... There were things in it I liked a lot" such as insuring the uninsured, but he added, "I have deep reservations about other parts of it. I don’t think they did enough on the cost containment side.”

“We cannot afford health care inflation which is four to five times that of overall inflation. It will bankrupt us all,” Heck said.

The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the health care overhaul will cut $455 billion from Medicare spending over the next ten years.

Can those cuts be made without the current Medicare beneficiaries suffering?

“The honest answer to that is: I don’t know,” he replied. “But the equally honest answer is that I don’t have any illusions about the difficulty of implementation of health care reform. There are a lot of bumps ahead. There’s no guarantee of success here ... This is going to be tough.”

Heck has funded his race with $350,000 of his own money. He was able to do this partly because he was an original investor in Real Networks. In 2000, the stock was trading at more than $115 a share; in recent days it has languished at under $3 a share.

“I still have some, and I didn’t sell it when I should have. I sold a bunch on the way up and a bunch on the way down,” Heck said.

Privatize Social Security?
Despite his fortune, Heck insisted that he’s at a disadvantage because Americans for Prosperity has been running ads attacking him.

“They’re backed by the Koch brothers who have called for the privatization of Social Security and all manner of things that I don’t believe in," Heck said. "I can only presume that they are doing that because I don’t believe in those and my opponent does.”

Is Heck saying Herrera supports privatization of Social Security? He replied: “She’s backed by people who do. I guess she’d have to answer why they’d support her if she didn’t.”

Herrera spokesman Casey Bowman responded, “Jaime doesn’t support privatizing Social Security. She does favor keeping the promise we’ve made to our seniors and ensuring Social Security is there for our current and near-retirees.”

Herrera worked as an aide to Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R- Wash., and since 2007 has represented a state legislative district in Clark County, which casts 51 percent of the votes in the district.

As a member of the legislature, she voted against using federal funds to help the state cope with increased Medicaid costs. “I voted against using that money because I felt like it created the (funding) ‘cliff’ we’re experiencing now,” Herrera said.

She said the problem was that the state chose to expand its Medicaid eligibility beyond children and poor elderly people to include “people who shouldn’t be included,” specifically childless adults, including many single males with drug habits.

“I’m all for getting them on the right track, but Medicaid was expanded to give cash payments of almost $400 a month,” she said. The federal windfall simply “allows the state to continue to mis-prioritize.”

She told a crowd of senior citizens last week she was “a little frustrated” that GOP leaders in D.C. haven’t yet come up with a 2010 version of 1994's Contract with America. But she has heard that one is in the works and she said any contract ought to include a plan for reducing spending, returning unspent stimulus funds, and cutting off bailouts.

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    >> todd who is also the co-host of msnbc's "the daily rundown.

    >> john boehner is the whipping boy of the moment, chuck todd . fascinating. john who says 93% of americans.

    >> you can't -- here is the problem that the white house and the democrats are in. they need to run against somebody. right? and look at our own nbc/" wall street journal " poll. what stuck out to me was the fact that when we asked, okay, if republicans get control of congress, are they going to go back to the economic policies of george w. bush or will they pursue different ideas? and it was nearly 3-1 margin. like 60%, more than 60% of likely voters said they would pursue different ideas. so fur-the- white house , this strategy of just running against bush or running against sort of the bush era wasn't working.

    >> wow.

    >> it's not coming through.

    >> that's interesting.

    >> so you do need to come up with somebody to run against. frankly, mitch mcconnell , that hasn't really worked.

    >> they don't have any good strong men out there! where are the good strong men when you need them, chuck?

    >> that is what they are missing. look. i've heard the comments. he is punching down and doing this. well, john boehner is speaker of the house it's not punching down any more. right? if john boehner is speaker of the house he is third in line to the presidency.

    >> a great strategy line in november. we're in september.

    >> there is nobody to run against now. so i think they actually are trying to build him up. everybody says why are you building him up? i think they want to.

    >> they don't have time.

    >> they are desperate to come up with some sort of opponent here before november.

    >> the number one issue, chuck, is jobs and the economy. what sense do you get out of that white house in terms of finding an enemy or finding an adversary? how do you craft the message around jobs and the economy? i think ezra klein who was on earlier had it about right when he said that is the number one issue. how do you address that? i don't know you're making it -- you're kind of sharing your point. i sgrooe fully that if that is our strategy, we might as well get ready for a whipping in november. how do we make the jobs issue? what are you hearing from the senior advisers there in the white house about that?

    >> it's not my opinion.

    >> no, i know.

    >> i'm just explaining what they are doing.

    >> i know. you're reflecting what they think.

    >> i think they would sit there and think this week feels like the week they are throwing mud at the wall, right? we are 100% reduction on rnd and $50 billion of infrastructure over here. you know, it all feels a little bit too little too late. the other thing about yesterday's speech that i found fascinating was how every republican candidate in the country reacted to the speech in a way as if this were full-fledged campaign mode. it was definitely one of these democrat like even carly fiorina put out a response to the president's speech in cleveland. it was this moment whether it was meant to or not, it certainly was a speech that was -- became sort of a campaign battle line . you know? where they drew lines in the sand and the republicans certainly seem to act like they liked what they heard more out of the president than maybe what democrats. because you didn't see democrats rallying to the speech in the same way.

    >> a quinnipiac poll just came out that reflects when the nbc news/" wall street journal " poll reflects. 44% approval rating for president obama and disapproval 47%. it reminds me of '06 with bush.

    >> sure.

    >> and '94 with clinton. sometimes, it's better for the president not to be out there at all. they don't have a lot of good choices right now.

    >> they don't. if he sat quietly he would be getting criticized for sitting quietly. he had to do something and i think that is what they are doing.

    >> i still like seeing that.

    >> you like to see the fight?

    >> i like seeing the fight and i think it will do him much good.

    >> even if he goes down in flames. give them hell, harry.

    >> like they have no plans.

    >> by the way, that's a good strategy.

    >> that's a good strategy.

    >> tell me what their plan is.

    >> to do nothing republicans, it worked for him.

    >> exactly right.

    >> i have a plan. what is their plan?

    >> canes are at ohio state this weekend. go canes.

    >> what is your prediction?

    >> i just want to win! miami on the road against

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