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Is the U.S. in recession — yes or no?

Also: Just how fast are house prices falling?

By John W. Schoen
Senior Producer
MSNBC
updated 5:13 p.m. ET May 12, 2008

This week, readers are looking for a straight answer to what seems like a simple question. Is the U.S. in recession or not?

Okay, the answer is "Yes, it is simple question." After that, things get a little more complicated.

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How can the economists disagree so greatly with each other? Is we is or is we ain't in a recession? It is a yes-or-no question.

— Mary W., Newport, N.C.3.

President Harry Truman shared your frustration.

“Give me a one-handed economist!” he is credited with saying. “All my economists say, 'On the one hand … on the other hand… '”

Which brings to mind an economist joke or two.

So these two economists were walking in town when they noticed two women yelling across the street at each other from their apartment windows.

“They’ll never come to agreement,” said one.

“Why not?” said the other.

“Because they’re arguing from different premises,” said the first.

(Badda-boom.)

And did you know that you could lay all the world’s economists end to end and they’d still never reach a conclusion?

Okay, maybe it’s unfair to pick on economists. There’s a reason they call it the Dismal Science. For all the disk drives full of economic data available to collect and analyze, there’s no speedometer on the U.S. economy. Each piece of data tells you only a piece of the story, and it’s not unusual for those pieces to contradict each other.

It also takes time to tally the books on the Gross Domestic Product of a $13 trillion economy: the final accounting of all the stuff we make and sell and the services we provide for each other. It takes months. In the meantime, you can look at individual pieces of data puzzle that can be added up more quickly.

Employment is a big one: if the economy is losing more jobs that it’s creating for more than a month or two, that’s a good sign the economy is headed in reverse — or about to. On the other hand (sorry about that), if all those jobs are lost because they went offshore, and U.S. companies keep selling more and more stuff made to order by workers in other countries, the U.S. economy keeps growing.

That seems to be one of the biggest sources of confusion among readers, based on last week’s email. A recession — by definition — doesn’t happen unless and until the overall level of economic activity begins shrinking instead of expanding. In other words, if U.S. companies all lay people off and then sell less stuff, that's a recession.

So far, the best indication we have that a recession is already underway in the U.S. is four straight months of job losses. The latest available reading on the broadest measure of the economy, the GDP, has slowed to nearly zero. But it has not yet signaled that we’re heading in reverse. (Usually, it takes two back-to-back quarters of negative GDP to confirm a recession.)

Okay, so why do so many people believe a recession is already upon us? The jobs data are compelling but not conclusive. Compared to past recessions, some of which were truly nasty, the numbers just aren’t that bad yet. Unemployment is half what it was in the worst of the 1982 recession. Inflation is rising at a very worrisome pace, but it’s still low by historical standards and nowhere near where it was in the 1970s. Why so much gloom and doom?

Many readers blame the media. There are certainly corners of the blog-infused, cable shoutfest that have made ridiculous assessments and dire forecasts not grounded in facts. But we suggest there’s another reason.

There’s no doubt million of families are suffering economically. Our Inbox is full of their stories, and they're not making them up. They’re having trouble buying groceries or paying for their health care. They can no longer afford to pay college tuition. Their wages aren’t keeping up with the cost of what they were able to buy last year. That hardly feels like prosperity.

There’s no doubt million of families are suffering economically. Our Inbox is full of their stories, and they're not making them up. They’re having trouble buying groceries or paying for their health care. They can no longer afford to pay college tuition. Their wages aren’t keeping up with the cost of what they were able to buy last year. That hardly feels like prosperity.


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