How Democrats are voting in Greenville, S.C.
Although outnumbered, there are more than 50,000 Democratic votes here
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Greenville County, in the northwest part of the state, is worth watching closely. The national news media frequently portrays Greenville County in stereotyped terms as the home of Bob Jones University, a place social conservative Mike Huckabee won in the GOP primary, and solidly Republican turf which George W. Bush won with two-thirds of the vote in 2004.
But more than 55,000 votes were cast for Democrat John Kerry in Greenville County in the 2004 presidential election. Lots of Democrats live here, even if they’re outnumbered two-to-one by Republicans.
Alluding to the embattled state of the minority party in this part of the South Carolina, Andy Arnold, chairman of the Greenville County Democratic Party, noted that his wife had just this week given birth to a baby boy.
“That’s the only way I could figure out to grow the party,” he joked.
Why Greenville matters
Despite the Democrats’ minority status, Greenville casts the third largest number of Democratic votes of all the counties in the state, ranking behind only Richland County (Columbia) and Charleston.
Underscoring the importance of Greenville, former president Bill Clinton went Saturday afternoon to a mostly black precinct on the west side of the city to urge voters to support his wife.
Asked if he had a sixth sense about Saturday's outcome, Clinton said, “I don't; usually I do. ... Almost all the voters like almost all the candidates. As a result, it makes it almost impossible to predict."
"In New Hampshire, I felt it coming," he said, an allusion to Hillary Clinton’s unexpected win, but here he has little sense what voters are deciding to do today.
Greenville County has a predominantly white population (76 percent), a higher average income, and more people with graduate and professional degrees than the statewide average.
How each of the Democratic presidential contenders performs in Greenville County will be a test of his or her appeal to more affluent, educated voters in other states in the Feb. 5 primaries.
“I really believe she would have the best chance against McCain or anyone the Republicans likely to put up,” said longtime Democratic activist Joanne Montague about Sen. Hillary Clinton.
Montague had supported Sen. Joe Biden before he exited the race. “You’ve got know how to work with Congress to get anything done,” she explained. “She has the knowledge. She’s a brilliant woman.”
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Tom Curry / msnbc.com Greenville attorney Carlyle Steele is a passionate John Edwards supporter. |
Edward's will come back to campaign
Democratic presidential nominees in past elections had too often written off the South and not bothered to campaign there, said Carlyle Steele, a John Edwards supporter.
He explained at a breakfast meeting of the Greenville County Democratic Party Saturday morning why he was volunteering for Edwards.
“I’m here to tell you that if Johnny Edwards is the nominee of the Democratic Party, he’s coming back here to campaign as the nominee of the Democratic Party,” Steele told the crowd of about 50 party loyalists.
“He may or may not carry South Carolina, but there are some states down here that we’re getting competitive in," he said. "For a long time the in-migration into South Carolina hurt us because everybody that came South was a Republican. But I think we’ve got some thinking people are coming in here now.”
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He added, “As much as I like them and respect them, I see Sen. Clinton and Sen. Obama running another one of those urban area elections, one of those East Coast-West Coast elections with a little splotch of blue along the Great Lakes.”
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