Waterboarding used on 3 al-Qaida officials
Detainees reacted differently to extreme measures— Hambali 'cried like a baby,' Ramzi bin al Shibh talked at the threat of water-boarding
Editor's note |
Sept. 14, 2007, 6:18 p.m. update MSNBC.com reported yesterday that the ban had been issued by then Director George J. Tenet not long before he resigned in July 2004. Asked whether the practice had ever been reinstituted since the 2004 ban, a senior U.S. intelligence official said, "If you reported that, if anyone reported that, it would be wrong." As this story notes, quoting four senior U.S. intelligence officers, only three al Qaida officials were ever waterboarded--Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Abu Zubaydah and Hambali, in order the mastermind of 9-11, the official who ran al Qaeda's training camps, and the mastermind of the Bali bombings. |
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When President Bush signed a secret executive order in July barring “cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment” of high value “detainees” in the War on Terror, there was no addendum laying out which of the detainees had faced harsh treatment in the past, nor was there a detailing of what the treatment entailed.
However, an NBC News investigation has learned that a total of 13 high value detainees— all of them ranking al-Qaida operatives—were subjected to “enhanced interrogation techniques” in 2002 through 2004. The techniques in some cases have been abandoned because they have become controversial; while others are still being practiced by interrogators.
In interviews, current and former high-ranking U.S. intelligence officials, tell NBC News that the most controversial of the “enhanced interrogation techniques,” including water-boarding, were used on only three detainees—Abu Zubaydah, who directed al Qaeda’s terrorist training camps; Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the 9-11 attacks; and Hambali, the mastermind of the Bali bombings in 2002. In water-boarding, a detainee’s head is covered with a fabric or cellophane and a steady flow of water is poured into his nostrils, creating the sensation of drowning. It is meant to make the detainee believe he was being slowly and methodically executed.
The enhanced interrogation measures include sleep deprivation, exposure to extreme heat and cold, confined quarters, and psychological and physical abuse along with the use of psychotropic drugs, say officials.
Intelligence officials tell NBC News then CIA Director George J. Tenet ordered a suspension of the enhanced measures in early 2004, as torture allegations mounted. The Abu Ghraib prison revelations, beginning in April 2004, was a major factor in the decision to suspend the measures, said intelligence officials. But the main concerns, they added, were legal: Could CIA officials, including both the interrogators and their superiors, ultimately be prosecuted? President Bush’s order in July removed a lot of those legal concerns, as CIA Director Gen Michael V. Hayden stated in an e-mail to agency employees hours after the order was issued.
“The President’s action— along with the Military Commissions Act of 2006— gives us the legal clarity we have sought. It gives our officers the assurance that they may conduct their essential work in keeping with the laws of the United States,” wrote Hayden.
In a speech and question and answer session at the Council on Foreign Relations last week, Hayden declined to provide detail on the interrogations. He would neither discuss the specific techniques, saying only that the new rules help the CIA “exhaust the universe of interrogation techniques allowed under common article three” of the Geneva Conventions. Hayden did say that fewer than 100 suspected terrorists had been detained by the agency.
“Since [the CIA’s detention and interrogation program] began with the capture of Abu Zubaydah in 2002, fewer than one hundred people have been detained at CIA’s facilities. And the number of renditions, apart from the fewer than one hundred detainees, is an even smaller number,” said Hayden, referring to the practice of sending detainees back to their home countries.
Hayden added that 70 percent of the information contained in the National Intelligence Estimate on the terrorist threat, which was released in July, came from the interrogation of detainees.
Detainees interrogated with enhanced measures
The 13 who were subjected to the enhanced measures, according to the investigation, included all but two of the 15 high value detainees recently transferred to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba and set for trial as enemy combatants. The two who were not subjected, said one official, were the last two detainees captured, Abu Faraj al Libi and Abu Hadi al Iraqi. Abu Faraj, the group’s No. 3 as director of external operations, was captured in May 2005 while al-Iraqi, liaison between al Qaeda and al Qaeda in Iraq, was captured in December 2006. Both were grabbed after the suspension order.
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The three subjected to water boarding were viewed as al-Qaida operatives with “real-time information” on terrorist planning:
- Abu Zubaydah, al Qaeda’s so-called “dean of students” at Afghan training camps who provided travel arrangements and accommodations to recent camp “graduates”;
- Khalid Sheik Mohammed, mastermind of 9-11; and the man who killed Daniel Pearl; and
- Hambali, the Indonesian terrorist responsible for the Bali bombings in December 2002 that killed more than 200, including five Americans.
Two of the three—KSM and Hambali—were chosen for water boarding because they were resistant to other interrogation methods…one, Zubaydah, because he initially told the CIA of an impending attack, then refused to discuss it, according to two officials.
A fourth high ranking al-Qaida member, Ramzi bin al Shibh—organizer of the Hamburg cell that was the core of the 9-11 attacks—agreed to talk with just the threat of water-boarding, said the officials.
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