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Men are coming from far and wide in hopes of meeting a young teen home alone. During the operation in Ocean County, N.J., they travel from Connecticut, New York state, all over New York City, and Pennsylvania, as well as within New Jersey.
Meet 21-year-old Zigfield Rivera. He drove more than an hour from Staten Island, N.Y., to meet a girl who said she was 13. Using the screen name zigdog2k3 he tells the decoy he's nervous about meeting her.
(chat transcript)
Zigdog2k3: I would wanna hang out with u if u keep it a secret
Decoy: o dang I wudnt tell ne1
Then he asks if she's a virgin. She tells him she is, so he continues.
Zigdog2k3: I was thinkin mayb u could do somethin for me
Decoy: um maybe
Decoy: like wut
Zigdog2k3: like suck my c---
Decoy: u want me to do that in the car?
Zigdog2k3: if u want
Decoy: ya y not
He also tells her he's bringing marijuana.
(hidden camera)
Zigfield: Wow, you live in a big house. (laughter)
Decoy: Sit down, I made some brownies.
The brownies have been sitting out for more than a day. We didn't realize, but by now they've turned rock hard.
Decoy: So, did you bring the weed?
Zigfield: Uh-huh (affirm).
Zigfield: You wanna take a drive somewhere?
Decoy: Um, I figured we could hang out here for a little bit first, and then (noise) maybe go take a drive if you want … I’m just going to go get something to drink (noise) and then if you want to get everything out and ready -- okay? (noise)
As the decoy walks away, I walk in.
Chris Hansen: So it seemed like you had a little trouble -- why don't you have a seat right there.
Hansen: Sir, I’d like to ask you some questions.
He takes off, and as you'll see when the cops grab him, they have a hard time getting him to the ground...the police say they never find marijuana on him or in his car.
Cops: Tell him to get down.
Zigfield: Ow.
Cops: Relax.
Cops: Give him a (unintelligible), give him a second.
Cops: Just relax. (unintelligible) Good. Listen.
Cops: Just lay down.
Cops: Easy, relax.
Our next visitor also talked about bringing marijuana. He's 25-year-old Michael Lubrano, here for a date with a girl he thinks is 14.
Decoy: How are you?
Lubrano: Good. How are you?
Decoy: Good, how are you?
Online calling himself "icetruckkiller103," he talks about hard-core sex with the decoy before she gives her age. After she says she's 14, he doesn't get too specific about sex. Instead, he leaves the subject open.
(chat transcript)
Icetruckkiller103: get high and watch family guy then see where that takes us
Decoy: kool
Decoy: I kinda like makin out when I smoke up tho...
Icetruckkiller103: you got anything on your mind?
Icetruckkiller103: :x
Decoy: lol u too?
Icetruckkiller103: who doesn't
But later, "icetruckkiller103" gets more specific about sex during a phone call. The decoy asks him if he was serious about the hard-core sex and he says "we'll see what happens" and then says "I’m definitely interested. What about you."
(hidden camera)
Decoy: You want some brownies, I made some?
Michael Lubrano: What'd you dose them?
Decoy: What?
Lubrano: Did you dose them?
Decoy: No. They're really good, I had them before. Did you bring the smoke?
Lubrano: (nods head) Should I just roll it up wherever?
Decoy: Yeah, let's check it out.
Lubrano: Let's check it out.
He wants the decoy to smell the marijuana he brought.
Decoy: Smells good. (laughter) All right. I'm just going to go get something to drink while you finish that up. Okay? You want something?
It seems something about that line gets this man thinking -- perhaps he's heard it before.
Chris Hansen: I want you to just keep your hands right where I can see them, okay? And I want you to sit right down in that -- no, keep your hands -- keep your hands right where I can see them, all right?
Hansen: Okay. What is this right here?
Lubrano: Some pot.
Chris Hansen: Some pot. And what was your (laughter) plan tonight?
Lubrano: Well, come down, you know? … Talk to her.
Lubrano: You're Chris Hansen?
Chris Hansen: I am. Have you seen this show? You have seen it?
Lubrano: I thought you were real funny on “Opie and Anthony.”
Chris Hansen: Oh, you -- you listened to me on “Opie and Anthony?”
Lubrano: (laughter) Yeah … Can I honestly tell you something?
Chris Hansen: Yeah.
Lubrano: I was thinking in the back of my mind that I almost wanted this to happen.
Hansen: Really?
Lubrano: I -- my life's just going to sh*t lately. I -- I really just don't -- you know? (laughter)
Chris Hansen: Well, tell me about it.
Lubrano: Like -- like look what I did, you know, driving around all hours of the night.
Chris Hansen: What do you do?
Lubrano: I’m in the waste management business. I'm a dispatcher for roll-off guys.
Chris Hansen: And is it-- that's a pretty good job?
Lubrano: (laughter) It was … (laughing) f---ing brownie.
Chris Hansen: What's so funny about the brownies?
Lubrano: Right when I saw the brownies, I knew.
Chris Hansen: You knew what?
Lubrano: I -- I knew I was going to be running into you.
Chris Hansen: I think -- I think this is the first time we've had brownies.
Lubrano: I’m kind of chuckling about it just because, you know, I shouldn't--
Chris Hansen: So you think it's funny.
Lubrano: No, I don't think it's funny. I -- I mean, it -- it's funny how dumb I-- I’m really turning into.
Chris Hansen: This girl you were chatting with online is how old?
Lubrano: She said 14.
Chris Hansen: Fourteen.
Lubrano: Yeah.
Chris Hansen: And you are how old?
Lubrano: I am 25.
Chris Hansen: You're 25.
Lubrano: Yeah.
Hansen: And so you thought that was okay to have this kind of a chat with her? Why?
Lubrano: Well, I -- I don't know. Because I can't get a girl.
Hansen: Why can't you get a girl? I mean, there's got to be girls your age out there.
Lubrano: Yeah, there's girls my age, but I have no self-confidence.
Hansen: Now, you seemed nervous about coming over, saying you're going to have to sneak in. What were you so nervous about?
Lubrano: (laughter) Running into you. But I -- I guess it doesn't -- you know?
Hansen: Uh-huh (affirming). Well, it doesn't -- doesn't seem to do as much--
Lubrano: I guess sneaking in was going to --
Hansen: -- that doesn't -- that doesn't seem like it was much of a deterrent tonight, now was it? How many times have you seen the show?
Lubrano: I’m a religious watcher. I --
Hansen: A religious watcher?
Lubrano: Well, I watch it whenever I can. Sometimes I go and, you know, hunt out clips on the internet.
Hansen: So you watch it on the internet, too?
Lubrano: I watch it any way I can. I love it when they play the clips on all the radio shows and --
Hansen: Yeah. Did you ever imagine that you'd be featured on one of our shows?
Lubrano: (laughter) Is there a hidden camera somewhere?
Hansen: Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of them.
Lubrano: Wow.
This religious "To Catch a Predator" fan keeps open the possibility that he might have had sex with a young teen.
Chris Hansen: What do you think would have happened if I wasn't here and you were alone with a 14-year-old girl?
Lubrano: I couldn't tell you. I might, you know --
Hansen: You might?
Lubrano: A guy like me, I might, you know, who knows what I would do.
Hansen: Think you'd have sex with her?
Lubrano: Probably not. Because any other time I try to have sex with a girl, it goes to s---.
Hansen: "So can you bring condoms in case?" "sure. Never leave home without them, right?"
Hansen: So you did bring condoms.
Lubrano: Well, they're always in my car.
Hansen: So you're always prepared.
Lubrano: (laughter) I’m always prepared for nothing.
Hansen: Well, it doesn't sound like you were expecting nothing tonight … What do you think should happen?
Lubrano: I don't know what to tell you, Chris.
Hansen: Okay. I mean, is -- I mean, obviously you know who I am.
Lubrano: Oh, yeah.
Hansen: You know what show this is.
Lubrano: Yeah.
Hansen: And you know what happens next, right? This is the part where the cameras come out. And for those who don't know who I am who walk in here, I say, "I’m Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC." If there's anything else you want to tell us, we'd like to hear it.
Lubrano: No, I’m -- I’m good.
Hansen: Okay. I -- I want you to take that with you, though, since that's an illegal substance, all right?
So he reaches into his pocket, gets out his bag and puts the marijuana away.
Lubrano: Cops outside?
Since he already suspects what's waiting for him outside, he takes his time getting ready to leave.
Lubrano: It's going to be a long night. Is that it?
Chris Hansen: That's it. All right.
Lubrano: Oh, okay.
And just as the man figured, the police are waiting outside.
Cops: Police. Stop.
Cops: Hands behind your back.
Cops: Behind your back.
As “To Catch a Predator” New Jersey continues, we'll meet men who at first insist someone has set them up...
Rob: I knew it was somebody playing a prank on me.
Ernest Timmons: The guy always plays practical jokes on me and everything.
Chris Hansen: Really?
(arrest)
...later they're brought to tears.
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