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Female decoy: C’mon in. How was the drive?
James Cisneros: Good.
We hired an 18-year-old actress as a decoy, pretending to be a 12-year-old alone in our undercover house.
The man coming to visit her is 29-year-old James Cisneros. His screen name is too graphic to say on television. Almost right off the bat, Cisneros asks an apparent 12-year-old online.
(chat log) whittierlacumandbig: You like sex?
i_is_a_ninja: lol, who doesn't
whittierlacumandbig: me too
whittierlacumandbig: you want to hang out tonight if you're not busy
She tells Cisneros that he can’t come over now, because her mother is home.
Whittierlacumandbig: oh can you sneak off late tonight? And we can get a hotel and i'll drop you and sneak back in
i_is_a_ninja: what for
whittierlacumandbig: sex
You heard that right. He wants to take someone he thinks is a 12-year-old to a hotel for sex.
whittierlacumandbig: you walk to school?
i_is_a_ninja: no i get a ride why
whittierlacumandbig: just wondering you get a ride back too?
i_is_a_ninja: yah why
whittierlacumandbig: just wondering if you ever needed a ride. yeah it will be fun when we have sex.
But the decoy won’t budge, so Cisneros gives in and shows up at the house.
Female decoy: So, I made a drink. I don’t know if you wanna try it or not—it’s Kool-Aid.
James Cisneros: It’s just regular Kool-Aid?
Decoy: Yeah. (Laughs)
.... And he comes prepared.
Decoy: So, what are you doin? Did you bring condoms?
Cisneros: Yeah. Got some right here.
Decoy: Sweet.
Cisneros: Where do you wanna—is there a place—where you wanna—anywhere?
Decoy: Doesn’t matter.
Hansen (walks out): Why don’t you take a taste of the drink there.
Cisneros: Why?
Hansen: Just have a seat.
Cisneros: Why?
Hansen: Have a seat.
Cisneros: No.
Hansen: I’m Chris Hansen.
Cisneros: Yeah.
Hansen: And I wanna ask you some questions. Please have a seat.
Cisneros: No.
Hansen: What are you doing up here?
Cisneros: Chillin'.
Hansen: And who were you here to meet?
Cisneros: Her--
Hansen: And how old is she?
Cisneros: I don’t know—she never told me.
Hansen: She never told you.
Cisneros: She never told me.
But as I refresh his memory with his own online chat, Cisneros decides our interview is over.
Hansen: Let me point something out to you.
Cisneros: Well, I—I gotta—
Hansen: I’m Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC, and we’re doing a story on adults who meet kids on the Internet.
Cisneros bolts.
Police: Get on the ground. Get on the ground.
Cisneros: I didn’t do anything.
The Long Beach police take Cisneros to their processing center.
Cisneros (to police) It’s just sex, that’s it. It wasn’t, you don’t think about the age. You just think about doing it.
Sgt. Lee DeBrander of Long Beach police: He knows what he did was wrong, but he has this overriding problem in his mind. And he needed to fulfill that need.
Later Cisneros pleaded not guilty to an attempted lewd act upon a child.
As in our previous investigations, some of the men who arrive aren’t coming to meet girls. We’ve prepared for that...
Male decoy: Hey, c’mon in.
Rob Culbertson: How you doin’ today?
Our decoy is a 21-year-old actor pretending to be a 13-year-old boy.
Decoy: What’s going on?
Culbertson: Not much. What’s going on with you?
Decoy: Nothing much. Listen, I made us some drinks. So, why don’t you pour me some.
Meet 49-year-old Rob Culbertson, a computer web designer with the screen name “Webdev2”.
He’s been chatting online with someone who says he’s 13.
Culbertson lies about his age, and says he’s 40. And just the man we previous showed you, Culbertson tries to get the boy out of his house.
(chat log) webdev2 :u want to come over
tommy_gold_1993: maybe if ur cool
webdev2: i am laid back no pressure
But when the decoy instead suggests Culbertson come over to the undercover house, the man makes it clear what’s on his mind.
WebDev2: lets meeet
tommy_gold_1993: and?
WebDev2: mess around
tommy_gold_1993: lol. wuts that mean
WebDev2: have sex
Whatever he has in mind, we’re about to find out. He lives close by and, and rode his bike to our undercover house.
Culbertson: So, what’s you up to?
Decoy: Oh, nothing I was thinking of actually getting in the hot tub. Do you think you wanna join me?
Culbertson: That sounds cool.
Decoy: Well—I’m a little nervous, so—do you wanna go first—take your—clothes off?
Culbertson: I’m kind of nervous myself too.
Culbertson seems to have second thoughts.
Culbertson: Actually I think I should be probably going.
Decoy: Why?
Culbertson: Because I’m rather uncomfortable with this.
Decoy: Why not?
Culbertson: Because your age.
Hansen (walks out): How was the walk over?
Culbertson: The walk was all right.
Hansen: Good. Have a seat.
Culbertson: Okay.
Hansen: What’s—
Culbertson: I—
Hansen: --your—plan tonight?
Culbertson: Just out cruising around.
Hansen: How old are you?
Culbertson: 35, 40.
Hansen: 35-40? You don’t know the exact date?
Culbertson: No, I’m—I’m 40.
We already know that’s a lie. His 50th birthday is in two weeks.
Hansen: And how old is the—boy you wanted to meet tonight?
Culbertson: 18.
Hansen: How old did he say he was on the chat?
Culbertson: 18.
Hansen: Eighteen.
Culbertson: Yes.
Hansen: Now I can give you the chat, and I want you to tell me where it says that he’s 18.
Culbertson: I just went by what his profile said.
Hansen: Profile said he was 13.
Culbertson: Yeah. No, his profile says he’s 18.
Hansen: No. He tells you right here that he’s 13.
Culbertson: I apologize for all this.
Hansen: “Okay, I’m 13.” “Damn, you’re cute.” He says, “But let’s go a little slower, dude.”
Like the other man, once I show him a copy of his online chat, Culbertson decides it’s time to go.
Culbertson: I’m gonna be on my way. I’m sorry about all this.
Hansen: Well, before you go, there’s one thing you need to know. I’m Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC, and we’re doing a story on adults who meet kids on the Internet for sex.
Culbertson pleaded not guilty to one charge of an attempted lewd act on a child.
Back at the house, our female decoy is about to say hello to 27-year-old Justin Smith, a video post-production editor who does freelance work for nickelodeon, the cable network geared towards kids.
Using the screen name, “residentsmith,” he chats online to a decoy who tells smith she’s a 13-year-old girl.
After the decoy sends a picture, Smith writes:
(chat log) residentsmith: “it’s definitely bad i think you’re this cute. lol.”
The girl asks, how come?
He writes back, “cause i’m 27”
He sends her several naked pictures of himself.
Residentsmith: i honestly never showed myself to anyone as young as you
The next day, Smith seems to express regrets.
Residentsmith: “It can be dangerous.”
Decoy: “how come?”
Residentsmith: “cuase it’s illeagal” (sic)
Over the course of 10 days, Smith sends her links to 40 pornographic videos--- showing everything from oral sex, to masturbation, to sex among multiple partners. He tells her when he comes over, he wants to perform oral sex on her.
And now, here he is walking into the house.
Female decoy: Hey! Come on in. How are you doing?
Justin T. Smith: Good. How are you?
Decoy: Awesome!
Smith: Good.
Decoy: I made us some drinks.
Smith: Awesome.
Decoy: And we have a hot tub.
Smith: Awesome. (laughs)
Decoy: I really liked your videos, by the way.
Smith: Did you really?
Decoy: So how have you been?
Smith: I’ve been good. It took me like 20 more minutes to get down here, ‘cause there was so much traffic.
Decoy: Are you serious? Where do you live?
Smith: North Hollywood.
Decoy: Oh, that’s not bad.
Hansen: We have a lot to talk about. You and I. Why don’t you have a seat right there, please.
Decoy: Okay.
Hansen: I need you to keep—no. I need you—
Smith: I have to go.
Hansen: You’re gonna want to talk to me.
Smith: I’m sorry.
Hansen: Trust me on this.
Hansen: Now you work at Nickelodeon, right?
Smith: No.
Hansen: You don’t. What’s your name?
Smith leaves, but police greet him as soon as he runs outside.
Smith is taken to the processing center, where a police investigator interviews him.
Smith (to police): I’ll be lucky if I have any sort of resemblence to my job...to my friends... how my family perceives me...to the girlfriend I have..the dog we have together.
Sgt. Lee DeBrabander: He knew coming in that what he was doing was wrong. That’s why when he realized when he was caught and the ramifications on his life and everyone around him, that, in my mind, is why he became so emotional.
Smith later pleaded no contest to two counts: an attempted lewd act upon a child and attempting to send harmful matter.
Nickelodeon told us they fired Smith, and that he had no contact with children when he worked there.
With all this technology, a house bristling with hidden cameras, microphones everywhere—and 20 people crammed inside--- some glitches are bound to happen.
It did when one of our visitors arrived in his truck.
24-year old Qays Mahjoob—nicknamed Matt—thought he was coming to see a 13-year-old girl. The decoy invites him inside.
Decoy: Hello? Are you comin’? How was the drive?
Mahjoob suddenly hears a walkie-talkie in the background.
Qays Mahoob: What’s that?
Decoy: What’s what?
Mahjoob: That sound?
Decoy: What sound?
It was the decoy’s walkie-talkie. Instructions to her from inside the house were mistakenly broadcast in the driveway.
Mahjoob gets spooked, but he circles around and comes in anyway.
Decoy: Okay. Why did you go away?
Mahjoob: ‘Cause I thought it had something to do with the police.
Decoy: (laughs) Yeah, I’m not that retarded.
Mahjoob: Oh.
Online, Mahjoob—screen name longbeachdude19-- thought he was chatting with a 13-year-old girl.
He tells her that he will perform oral sex on her.
(chat log) longbeachdude19: “I will show u heaven,” he writes. “I love it. I can do that all day.”
Mahjoob asks if she’s performed oral sex, asks if she’s good at it, and other specifics we can’t tell you about here.
And remember, he’s chatting with someone who said she was 13.
Decoy: What have you been up to?
Majhoob: Not much.
Decoy: Did it take you that long to come back? Do you wanna have a seat or something?
Mahjoob: Gimme a tour. (laughs)
Decoy: Gimme a tour? Oh, I see. Well, this is the hot tub.
Mahjoob: Cool.
Decoy: We could hang out here.
Hansen: Hey man, how are you? Matt, I need to talk with you for a minute.
Mahjoob: I know what—
Hansen: Matt, why don’t you have a seat right over there.
But talking is not what he has in mind.
When he is confronted by police, they ask him put his hands up. He doesn’t respond fast enough, and the result is a taser shot.
Hansen: Why was it necessary to use the taser on this guy?
Sgt. Lee DeBrabander: He’s already demonstrated that he’s not going to listen to the orders of the police officers. A lot of these guys, they are confronted with the reality that they are about to be exposed for what they did. And a lot of them may try violence to get away. The taser was used to prevent any injury to him and also to any police officers.
At the processing center, police find condoms in his car.
He’s pleaded not guilty to an attempted lewd act on a child.
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