Prominent men caught in Petaluma sting

Decoy: Hey!

Anaraj Tuari: Hey.

Decoy: Come on in!  You made it.

Tuari: I did.

29-year-old Anaraj Tuari is here to keep his date with a girl who told him she was 13. They met online less than a week ago. She invited him over and told him she would be home alone today and ready for sex.

Decoy: Yeah, come on in the back.  I made us some frozen lemonade.

Tuari: You did?

Decoy: Yeah.  Hey, did you bring condoms?

Tuari: Yeah.

Decoy: Oh, cool.

Using the screen name “indianman76,” he tells the decoy he would give her oral sex because she is “young and fresh.” Then he asks “Do you like anal?” The decoy says “I never done that.” He responds, “want to do it?”

He seems pretty surprised when I walk out.

Chris Hansen, Dateline correspondent (walking out): How are you tonight?

Tuari: Good.

Hansen: Good.  Go ahead, have a seat, please. 

Tuari: Well I had no intention of doing anything.  I mean I don’t have anything here with me.

Hansen: Well you just said you brought condoms.

Tuari: I mean it’s not for here for anything.

Hansen: Where is it for? You’re here.

Tuari: I’m here.  I told—

Hansen: The condoms are here.

Tuari: I told her I just—

Hansen: The girl is here.

Tuari: I told her I just wanna meet her and you know, go out for something to eat or—

Hansen: You said you brought condoms.  And now you say, you didn’t bring condoms.

Tuari: I don’t have condoms here with me.

Hansen: Do you have them in your car?

Tuari: No. In the car, maybe.  I don’t know.

In fact, he does have condoms in his car.   When I remind him what he wrote online to a girl pretending to be 13, he says it’s all a big misunderstanding.

Hansen: (reading transcript) “I would love to eat you there.”

Tuari: That was not me.  That—

Hansen: That was not you?

Tuari: that was my friend.

Hansen: That was your friend.  You say, “Do you like anal?”

Tuari: That was again my friend.  That was not me.

Hansen: And who’s your friend?  What’s his name?

Tuari: Someone. You know, there was a party going on.  And someone logged into my computer.

Hansen: You say that you can do it hard and fast, “put her legs on your shoulders and do it hard.”

Tuari: Well that’s my friend again.

Hansen: She says, “What’s your first name?”  The answer is, “Anaraj.”  That’s your name.

Tuari: Yeah, he used my name.  I don’t know why.

Hansen: He did.  Now how did you know that your friend did all this?  Did you watch him do it?

Tuari: No, I don’t know.  I mean that’s—

Hansen: First of all you say your friend did it.  Then you say you don’t know the friend’s name.  And then you say there were a bunch of people at a party, but you weren’t there.

Tuari: Yeah.

Hansen: So how do you know that this all happened if you weren’t there?

Tuari: There were so many guys in my apartment—

Hansen: And when did the party take place?

Tuari: Last week.

Hansen: You know there’s more than one conversation here, and more than one reference to sex.  So either you had a party over a several day period and people had control of your computer, or you’re telling me a big fat lie.

Tuari: Well first of all, I wanna know who you are and—

Hansen: You wanna know who I am?  I’m Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC and we’re doing a story on adults who try to meet teens online for sex.  Now if there’s anything else you’d like to tell me—

Tuari: No, I don’t want—

Hansen: Otherwise, obviously you can walk right out the door you came in.

Then he leaves the backyard and is arrested. Somehow the story about someone else using his computer doesn’t come up once he’s sitting in front of a police officer.

Police Officer Robert Barnes: You’re asking a 13-year-old if she’s a virgin.  You ask her if she likes to go down.

Tuari: That was a first conversation—

Officer Barnes: I know, and then you also even asked her in that first conversation, “You ever been with an older man?”  Did you wanna be that older man to teach her?

Tuari: No.  I would definitely, definitely not do anything with a 13-year-old girl.

Officer Barnes: Why did you ask her if she liked anal sex?

Tuari:  That was a stupid question.  I just—out of curiosity, out of sheer curiosity. I’m a well-respected man in society, detective.

Officer Barnes: Okay.

Tuari: I have a Ph.D. degree in computer engineering.

Officer  Barnes: Okay. Is there anything else you’d like to add?

Tuari: Is there any chance I can go tonight?

Officer Barnes: You’ll be going to Sonoma County Jail tonight unless you can post the bail.

And they’ll be more respected men arriving at our house for a date with a young girl. Like 31-year-old Chandra Nunna, a computer engineer. And he appears to know what he’s doing is wrong.

Chandra Nunna: I hope I’m not—

Decoy: What?

Nunna: I hope I’m not trouble for this.

What could possibly have this man so worried? Perhaps a sexually explicit online chat he had with someone who told him she was 13, and then trying to meet her?

Nunna: Hi.

Hansen: Hi, how are you?

Nunna: Good.

Hansen: How are the strawberries?

Nunna: Sorry this is not what it’s supposed to mean.

Hansen: What’s “it” supposed to mean?

Nunna: I was—I thought she was alone, but without her family, so I thought I’d just get her some coffee.

He tells me he was concerned about the girl because she told him she was home alone.  He says he only came over to check on her and bring her coffee.

Hansen: So you wanted to come over and keep an eye on her—

Nunna: No, just—

Hansen: —help her out, make sure she was safe.

Nunna: Well, probably. I’m not the kind of guy that you’re talking about. No.

But if that’s true, why, when he was chatting with her online,  did he tell the decoy he was worried about meeting a 13-year-old?

Hansen: “I can go to jail for being with a minor.”

Nunna: Yeah I told her because she keeps asking to come out—

Hansen: You say, “I’m being careful.”

Nunna: Exactly because all I wanted to do was probably be like a big brother or something, nothing more than that.

Hansen: A big brother?

Nunna: Something like... you know.

Hansen: “You know if I hang out with you and someone catches us I will go to jail.  I will be called a pedophile.”

Nunna:  Yeah, exactly.

Hansen: Well, if you’re so concerned about it, why even come here?

Nunna: Like I said, why I asked her if she wanted some coffee or if she wanted to get some food.

Hansen: She says, “Have you met anyone on here?”  You say, “A few. Dated one. Had sex with a couple.”

Nunna: Yeah. I had a girlfriend that I met online and that’s about it. Nobody underage.

Hansen: So this is the first time that you met somebody online who was underage?

Nunna: Yes. I just wanted to make sure she’s all right.  There was some sex talking around sure, but she was the one who started it, to be very honest.  And I was—

Hansen: The 13-year-old girl started it?  So it’s not your fault then, right?

Nunna: But no, no, no, like I said, I think of—once I even told her, “You know you are 13 and you can’t even consent to have sex.”

But that didn’t stop him from asking the girl if she gives oral sex.

Hansen: So what part of the counseling process was the oral sex going to play?

Nunna: I was not—like I said, I’m not the kind of—

Hansen: Look, these are your words.

Nunna: Because, like I said, you know, she’s the one who led me on all this time I’m just playing around.

Hansen: (reading from chat transcript) “I am being very bad like a pervert.”  Then you say, “I want to give it to you deep and hard.”

Nunna: What?

Hansen: “But maybe you will bleed a lot for the first time.” 

Nunna: No. Honestly no.

Hansen: She says, “So you’ll be careful right?”  “Very.” Then you say, “I kind of have a big one.”  She says, “Big one what?”  “You know the man thing.”  “Ooh.”

Nunna: I was just—she was playing and I was playing, I guess, that’s all about it, honestly. You know, I’m looking at your eyes straight, I’m telling you the truth,  my conflict of coming here was to make sure she was okay.

Hansen: Well, I’m looking you strait in the eyes and I’m gonna tell you the truth.  I’m Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC and we’re doing a story on adults who try meet teens online.

Nunna: Okay.

Hansen: If there’s anything else you’d like to tell us we’d be happy to hear it, if not you’re obviously free to go.

Nunna:  If there are really kids like that, the parents should not leave them home alone and probably guys like me should just call the law officers next time and not, you know—

Hansen: Try to be the Good Samaritan?

Nunna: Exactly.

Hansen: Okay.

And like all the others who’ve shown up at our house, the man who claims he’s really just a Good Samaritan gets arrested.

And he sticks to that story when he’s questioned by Jeff Shinkolf from the Department of Justice.

Nunna: That’s why I told her, “I don’t want to come into the house.  I just want to see if you’re okay, and give you the coffee, and go.”  That was my all intention.  That’s all.

Officer: Here it says, “I am just having problem convincing myself it’s okay to be with a minor.”

Nunna: Because she kept asking me, and I told her, “It’s not right.”  And I told her “There’s not at all—it’s wrong thing.”

Officer: She’s not asking you for sex here.  I read it.

Nunna: See that—I mean, should read the whole thing.  It’s see like you—

Officer: I’ve read the entire thing. And nowhere—

Nunna: I mean, the—

Officer: Does it say—

Nunna: I think it’s intention that—

Officer: She has never asked for sex.

Nunna: Jeff, that’s the mistake I made.  I listened to my good side of seeing if someone was okay, and I think I’m gonna pay a price for it and I know what it is. 

We knew there were lots of people from the computer industry in this part of California.

We just didn’t know so many of them would show up at our undercover house.

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