Potential predators in Petaluma

Outside our hidden camera house in Petaluma California, things are still getting backed up.  One potential predator drives up, parks out front and sits there.  Meanwhile we spot another man across the street getting out of his car.

Usually when a visitor arrives—we know exactly who he is based on his photo and information in his chat log. But as we watch this man cross the street and head up our driveway, we realize we don’t know which potential predator he is. Our decoy invites him in anyway. 

Unknown man: Hey, how you doin?

Decoy: You made it.

Unknown man: I know, I did.

Decoy: Finally. Hey, sit down.  Pour me some frozen lemonade—can you taste it. I wanna get in the hot tub.  So, I’m gonna change into my swimsuit.

Unknown man: Perfect.

While the potential predator and our decoy chat, we’re still trying to figure out which one he is.

Decoy: So, what do you wanna do?

Unknown man: Anything you want to.

Decoy: What’d you have in mind?

Unknown man: I don’t know.  I think actions speak louder than words. 

I head out to meet him carrying a chat log.

Hansen: So, actions speak louder than words, huh?

Unknown man: Exactly.

Hansen: Why don’t—you’re—have a seat right over there on the stool for your first action.

Unknown man: How you doin, sir?

But I was about to find out the chat log I have belongs to someone else.

Hansen: How old are you?

Unknown man: Seventeen.

Hansen: Try again. 

Unknown man: Seventeen.  I lied on my age. 

Hansen: Seventeen.  Why would you lie and say that you’re 29?

Unknown man: Twenty-nine.  I’m not 29.

Hansen: What is your screen name?

Unknown man: My screen name?

Hansen: Yeah.

Unknown man: It’s called—Hennessey.

Hansen: Hennessey?  Okay.

Mystery solved. Our decoy quickly hands me the correct chat log-hennessey1436 --  Henry Guzman. He’s actually 20 years old. He’s what Perverted-Justice calls a “fast mover.” His chat with a girl who told him she was 13 began only a few hours ago. Wasting no time, he made a date for sex with her and then drove right over.  That’s what caused the confusion. 

Hansen: so you faked your name and your age

Henry Guzman: Because I knew something like this would happen.

Hansen: You knew something—

Guzman:That’s why—

Hansen: --like this would happen.

Guzman: Why do you think I’m here, dressed like this?

Hansen: Why don’t you help me out and tell me what you came here for.

Guzman:I have no idea what’s goin on, man.  I’m serious.

While I’m confronting hennessey1436 in the backyard, that other suspect is still out front sitting in his truck.

Hansen: So, who did you think you were talking to there a minute ago? That girl?

Guzman: I don’t-- .  I don’t know anything about it.  I’m serious.

Hansen: You don’t know anything about it?

Guzman: No.

And he doesn’t seem to know something else: That I have the entire chat log of his conversations with the decoy.

Hansen: “So, you already had sex,” you asked her?

Guzman: What is this?  What is this?

Hansen: You say ‘You have condoms—can you bring ‘em?’ Do you have condoms in your car?

Guzman: No.  Why—what’s up in here?  What’s goin on?

Hansen: Well, because—I’m Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC, and we’re doing a story on-- (RUSTLING)—men who try to meet teens—

Hansen: --online for sex. 

Guzman: Thank you very much.  See you later.

Just as I’m telling hennessey1436 that he’s walked into  a Dateline investigation, the man in the truck drives away and is arrested down the street.

The 20-year-old leaves the backyard and is met by police on the driveway.

Both men end up here at the booking station where their vehicles are searched and their pictures taken.

Hennessey1436 is brought in for questioning.  At first he claims he didn’t know the girl’s age and says he had no intention of having sex, but then he changes his story.

Detective:   When you left San Francisco, how old did you believe that she was based on the information that you had?

Guzman: 13.

Detective: 13 years old. So why did you come down here to meet this girl?

Guzman: I guess to have sex.

Detective: To have sex. 

He also admits to some of what he said online.

Guzman: I do remember that I said—like oh, like you know, “Bring condoms,” I guess.  And I just, I’m not gonna lie, I have ‘em in my trunk.  But they were not for that.  So that means I’m going to jail?

Detective: yes you’re going to jail.

And what about that man who sat in his truck across from our house? Now it’s his turn to be questioned.

36-year-old Shaka Khan was invited over by a decoy posing as a young teen he met in a chat room. He brought beer and condoms just like the decoy asked.

Shaka Kahn: She goes, “My mom is gone, and I’m 13.”  And we can get naked, and we can do this—and she made it sound like wow, this would be the greatest thing! At first I was like, “Oh, yeah, this is cool.  This is cool.” 

Police officer: Uh-huh (affirms).  What else were you—did you two talk about doing?  When you came over?

Kahn: She said to me to bring beer.

Police officer: What else?

Kahn: And was in the hot tub.

Police officer: Okay.

Kahn: And she wanted to have sex. But when I got there, I’m like, “Dude, I’ll kick your ass myself if you do this.”  You know, I couldn’t do it.  I couldn’t even get out of that truck.  I mean I was like—just go home now. 

He claims he sat in his truck debating whether to go inside but decided to leave, and that’s when he was pulled over.

Kahn: Reality check.  What are you doing?  You’re bringing alcohol to a minor, first of all.  And this is—a little kid!  Come on, dude.  What is wrong with you?”

Police officer: That is not a reason why you didn’t go in the house.

Kahn: That is the reason why.  I swear to you.  God is my witness. 

Police officer: You saw somebody going in the house and said, “What the heck is going on here?”

Kahn: Oh, the guy with the Mustang.  He came in—way after I parked my truck and sat there.  And I saw him went inside.  But I didn’t think much of it.

When police search his truck they find the beer—and something else.

Police: We found something in the cabin.

Kahn: Yeah.

Police officer:  A device I’m not familiar with.

Kahn: laughs) Well it’s—pump for a thing—penis, right?

Police officer: Say that again?

Kahn: It’s a penis pump.

Police officer: Okay. Tell me what—what—

Kahn: I use—for  yeah, it’ll pump you up.  And just—

Police officer: What do you mean “pumps you up”?

Kahn:  Your penis.

Police officer: Oh okay.  Okay.

Kahn: And it just makes you feel good.

He says he got it a bachelor party and had no intention of using it with a 13-year-old. And that concludes the interview.

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