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It was a “To Catch a Predator” first one man made plans online for a threesome with an underage teen—and his adult girlfriend.
35-year-old Marvin Smith, being waved into our house by a decoy, said he and his girlfriend wanted to have sex with a girl who told them she was a 15-year-old virgin.
Online he calls himself “swgamaleyess.” His chat is one of the most graphic and disturbing we’ve come across. At first, he offers the decoy “erin_lynnb” $250.
When she asks “y do u wanna give me money?” he says “cuz i want you.” Then he tells her about another girl he met online.
swgamaleyess (chatlog): she was 15
swgamaleyess: like u
swgamaleyess: her mom was at work
erin_lynnb: k
swgamaleyess: she invited me over
swgamaleyess: had never had sex
erin_lynnb: oh
swgamaleyess: her and her friend
erin_lynnb: wow
He goes on to say that the two girls performed oral sex on him and then he describes in detail how he claims to have taken one of the girl’s virginity. And he doesn’t stop there. After he sends pornography he then introduces the decoy to a woman who calls herself Phyllis, his girlfriend, and says “she wants to be there with us.”
Phyllis then apparently gets on the computer herself and starts chatting with “erin_lynnb” and explains how it would work. She says her boyfriend “would have sex with both of us...as he’s doing one of us, he would want us to play with (each) other.” To verify Phyllis was real, a decoy from Perverted-Justice spoke to her on the phone.
Phyllis, the girlfriend doesn’t show up: she apparently had to work. But “swgamaleyess” does and is now in our house and in hot pursuit of our decoy.
But as the decoy walks behind the curtain, the man sees our camera crew and runs.
And he keeps on running, even after sheriff’s deputies order him to stop.
Finally, an officer’s taser knocks him to the ground.
After he’s arrested, he’s taken in for questioning. And this man with the incredibly vulgar chat reveals something that, ironically, no longer surprises us.
"Swgamaleyess" or Marvin Smith: I was a minister in the church.
Police officer: What church you go to?
Smith: Preach—Baptist Church. I don’t wanna go to prison.
It also turns out he’s married and worried about his wife finding out.
Smith: I’ll lose everything I got.
The 35-year-old asks to speak to a lawyer and the interview is over.
He’s then taken to the county jail, fingerprinted, photographed and put behind bars.
The next day, he goes before a judge and bail is set.
Back at the house, there are more suspected predators on the way. One man pulling in our driveway is 38-year-old David Hillbish he builds tunnels.
Frag, Perverted-Justice: In the chat, he mentions molesting another 15 yr old.
He’s been chatting with a decoy pretending to be 14. He says he’d rather not come to her home, he’d like to take her to a hotel.
Online using the screenname “tunnels12000” he tells the decoy named “tracy_in_xcess,” this isn’t his first time meeting a teen on the Internet.
“I did it with a 15-year-old before. And I came real close to getting caught. I didn’t have sex with her, everything but.” He later says he was questioned by detectives but never charged. Now he wants to have sex with Tracy.
Decoy: Hey? Come on in. I made you some sweet tea.
"tunnels 12000: or David Hillbish: I don’t want no tea, I want you.
Decoy: Oh well I just thought I’d throw this in the dryer real quick. Everything is gonna get wrinkled. This will only take a second (laughs). I’m sorry you didn’t bring your bike I would have loved to see it.
Hansen: Will you have a seat right over there please?
Hillbish: Sure.
Hansen: How you doing?
Hillbish: Pretty good.
When I confront the 38-year-old, his memory seems a bit foggy.
Hansen: And so you were chatting with a girl named Tracy.
Hillbish: Right.
Hansen: And how old is Tracy?
Hillbish: I don’t have no idea.
Hansen: The problem for you David is that I have the chat right here. Have you ever done this before?
Hillbish: No.
Hansen: Have you ever been with an underage girl before?
Hillbish: No, not sexually, no.
Hansen: (reading from chat) “I did it with a 15-year-old before and I came real close to being caught. You stay out all night and fall asleep in my truck.”
Hillbish: I didn’t break the law that I know of and the police officer told me that. I don’t know what the law is but he questioned me, I went back home that night and they called me Monday.
When I read him some of what he wrote in his chat log, he first tries to blame the girl.
Hillbish: She asked me several things also.
Hansen: Does that make it right?
Hillbish: No and she invited me here.
Hansen: So because a 14-year old girl invites you to come over—it’s ok
Hillbish: It’s wrong, I admit I’m wrong
Hansen: Why did you do it?
Hillbish: There is no reason.
Hansen: Did you bring any alcohol with you?
Hillbish: Yeah.
Hansen: Yeah and what did you bring exactly.
Hillbish: Exactly what she asked.
When I ask him what his plan was here tonight. He says he’s not really sure.
Hansen: If this 14-year-old girl was willing to have sex with you, would you have had sex with her?
Hillbish: I can’t say for sure. I never did with that other girl, and that’s the reason why.
Hansen: That’s the reason why what?
Hillbish: She was underage.
Hansen: Aren’t there any girls or women that are of a legal age that you can date?
Hillbish: I have a fiancé.
Hansen: Huh?
Hillbish: I have a fiancé.
Hansen: You have a fiancé.
Hillbish: Yeah.
Hansen: And how do you suppose this is gonna play when she finds out about this?
Hillbish: It’s not gonna play at all.
Now it’s time to tell tunnels12000 what he’s walked into to.
Hansen: I need to tell you, I’m Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC and we’re doing a story on adults who meet teens online and then try to meet them in person for sex. If there’s anything else you want to tell us about the situation.
Hillbish: I can’t understand how you all legally can do this.
Hansen: We can.
Hillbish: Okay.
Then he says he’d like to say something more...
Hillbish: I just need to stay off the Internet maybe. Maybe so maybe I do need treatment.
He says he’s not a predator. He’s a lonely man raising two children alone who uses the Internet to meet women.
Hillbish: —a predator is somebody that constantly does that. I don’t do that. I would prefer to have someone my age and they would prefer to have me. But if some female, I’m wrong. Don’t take me wrong but if some female makes an offer to you and you’re alone all week it’s tempting for a person.
Hansen: What made this so tempting for you?
Hillbish: Well, being lonely.
Hansen: Alright. Anything else you’d like to tell us?
Hillbish: No. Ya’ll gonna get me arrested when I leave?
Had he seen our previous reports, he would know exactly what is going to happen next.
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