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During our undercover investigation in Fort Myers Fla., there’s been a steady stream of potential predators arriving to keep their dates with someone who told them they were a young teen.

Ten men the first day and eleven men on the second day. And there’s still one more day to go.

Some come looking not for girls, but for boys. Meet 23-year-old Ryan McIntosh, screenname “qx4boi19.” He owns a high end dog boutique. He’s here to meet a boy who told him online he was 14. The decoy says, “you won’t tell anyone i’m gay will you?” and "qx4boi19" replies “if you don’t tell anybody you (blanked) my (blank).”

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Del from Perverted-Justice, playing the male decoy invites him in and scoots behind the door before he sees her.

Del, decoy: Watch TV or something, I’ll be right back out alright?

Ryan McIntosh: Alright.

Chris Hansen, Dateline correspondent (walks out): Why don’t you make yourself at home here, have a seat. What’s going on?

McIntosh: Not much. How are you?

Like many other men caught in our investigations, “qx4boi19” insists he didn’t come here for sex with a young teen.

McIntosh: I was just coming over here to hang out. And, I felt like I would be more a big brother more than anything. I do know—

Hansen: Big brother? So, you were coming over to be a mentor?

McIntosh: In a way, yes. And, I’m sure you’ve heard that 20 billion times.

Hansen: Twenty billion and one counting tonight.

McIntosh: I had no intention of having sex with him tonight.

Hansen: What were you gonna do?

McIntosh: Just hang out.

But his chat log doesn’t make it sound like he was just here to hang out.

Hansen: You talk about penis size. Whether he’s got pubic hair.

McIntosh: Uh-huh (affirms).

Hansen: You say you’re horny. You say you’re masturbating while you’re talking to him. You talk about hooking up and you say, “If you don’t tell anybody, you blank my blank.”

McIntosh: I said that?

Hansen: Yeah. Then you say, “I don’t want to go to jail.” Do you recall that conversation?

McIntosh: I’m sure I did say that.

Hansen: I mean, the issue here is not gay or straight.

McIntosh: Right.

Hansen: The issue here is adult-child. The mentoring conversation that you’re saying to me that you were going to have tonight with a 14 year old? That’s not what you were saying online.

McIntosh: Well, I didn’t necessarily say I wanted to have a conversation tonight. I was just gonna come out and hang out and see what he was like.

"Qx4boi19" sits and talks to me for more than ten minutes then amazingly when I start to tell him who I am. But he already knows.

Hansen: I’m Chris Hansen with “Dateline NBC.”

McIntosh: I know.

Hansen: You know?

McIntosh: Uh-huh (affirms).

Hansen: Have you seen a previous stories?

McIntosh: I have.

And as you’ll hear later, the possibility of walking into a Dateline investigation wasn’t enough to stop him.

Dallas Lee has been chatting online in an AOL gay chat room with a boy posing as a 14-year-old. It takes him less than seven minutes to ask the boy if he wants oral sex. The decoy says “okay cool.”  And a few hours later, he’s walking into our living room.

Del, decoy (hidden camera footage): I’m finishing getting ready, hang out at the table for a sec ok? So you’re pumped too huh?

Dallas Lee: Yeah

Hansen: So what were you so pumped for?

Lee: Oh not too much.

Hansen: Why don’t you have a seat right on the stool there? What you doing here?

Lee: He invited me over.

Hansen: Who is he?

Lee: Tony.

Hansen: And how old is Tony?

Lee: 14.

Hansen: What was your plan here? With this 14-year-old boy?

Lee: I mean we talked about sex and stuff like that.

Hansen: Sure did!

Lee: Yep, I mean I not gonna lie to you. I mean, I got two kids of my own. We can hang out and stuff.

Hansen: And how old are your kids?

Lee: My son is 19 and my daughter is 15.

Hansen: So your daughter is one year older than the boy you were coming to visit tonight.

Lee: Um hmm.

Hansen: Now how would you feel if your daughter at the age of 15 was home alone, and a man came to visit her? And so why is it ok for you to come here?

Lee: It’s not. Honestly, it’s not, you know, but I was even, not even. Set the sex aside.

He says he knows it looks bad, but he “really wanted to be a father figure to the boy who told him he didn’t have a dad.” But if that’s so, why did he tell the boy he was 20 years old when he’s really 40?

Hansen: If you’re trying to be a father figure to this kid, as you have suggested to me you were trying to do—

Lee: Right.

Hansen: Why would you tell him you were 20 and much closer to his age?

Lee: Right. That’s a mistake.

Hansen: It would seem as though somebody would do that, if they wanted the target to think they were younger and be comfortable to have sex.

Lee: Exactly. I understand that. I understand where you’re coming from.

Hansen: Right?

He also understands something else...

Hansen: As you sit here today based on this chat—

Lee: Yeah. I’m screwing up.

Hansen: —based upon your arrival here you are every parent’s worst nightmare.

Lee: Exactly. I understand what you’re saying. You’re right. I guarantee it’s never gonna happen again.

And there’s still another man who comes to the house, claiming he’s really here to help...

Thomas Campbell: Where are you?

Del, decoy: I’m right in here. I’ve gotta finish getting changed. I’ll be right there.

Another man who's watched previous investigations
He’s 61-year-old Thomas Campbell, “j1h3120.” He’s been chatting online with a decoy posing as a 14-year-old. He graphically describes how he likes to give oral sex to young men. The decoy asks, “is that like your favorite to do” and j1h3120 says, “yep and from what most say...it’s the best they’ve HAD.”

Campbell: No. Where you at?

Decoy: I’m right here. I just gotta finish getting changed. Sorry, man. Didn’t mean to confuse you.

Hansen (walks in): Moving pretty quick there. Why don’t you have a seat right over there.

Campbell: Ok.

Hansen: At the stool. Where were you headed there?

Campbell: Huh?

Hansen: Where were you headed just then?

Campbell: Just to talk with him.

Hansen: Just to talk with who?

Campbell: Tony.

Online, he listed his age as being in his 40s. At first he tells me he’s only 49, later we learn the truth.

Campbell: I’m 61.

Hansen: You’re 61. So, you’re not in your 40s like you said?

Campbell: No.

The man starts to have a bit of an asthma attack.

Hansen: Just relax.

He uses his inhaler and says he’s fine Then he tells me he had a tough time growing up gay and wanted to help the young boy he expected to meet here.

Campbell: Help him see that it’s not really the shameful situation that it was when I was younger.

Hansen: So, you were here to mentor this boy?

Campbell: If I could, yeah. I don’t mind helping.

Hansen: And did that mentoring process include having sex with him?

Campbell: Oh, no.

Hansen: But, that’s now how the conversation went on the Internet, is it?

Campbell: I don’t think so. I don’t know.

Hansen: You say, “I love to (blank) a young man—deep (blank) and (blank) him dry.”

Campbell: OK.

Hansen: Do you recall that?

Campbell: I believe so. This was—

Hansen: Well, I have the whole transcript here, so—

Campbell: —few days ago.

Hansen: Yeah. Yep. “And, from what most say it’s the best they’ve had. The real compliment is when they keep coming back for more. You’d absolutely love it. I’m in my 40s, but guarantee that I’m not some old guy wanted to perve a young boy.” Well, the reality is that you are older.

Campbell: Uh-huh (Affirms).

Hansen: And what’s going on here seems pretty “pervy” doesn’t it?

Campbell: It does.

A total of 24 men show up at the house, are arrested and thrown in jail. But first they’ll find out they’re going to be on national television.


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