'To Catch a Predator' III

Our latest investigation of Internet predators reveals the most ethnically diverse group of men we have seen so far. And a wide range in age from 19 years old to 65.

Michelle Paradise, Deputy District Attorney: It doesn’t surprise me at all that they would be from all walks of life.

And Riverside County Deputy District Attorney Michelle Paradise says it’s also a problem in every socio-economic group as well.

Chris Hansen, Dateline correspondent: It’s a pervasive problem?

Paradise: Across the board.

Men are pulling up to our hidden camera house in all types of vehicles, from junkers to expensive luxury cars. And their occupations run the gamut. This man, screenname “cbeachdude,” who drives up to our house in his Mercedes Convertible is an actor. He thinks he’s about to meet a 13-year-old boy.

Online, “cbeachdude” describes in detail his plans for sex with the boy in the shower. He walked into our kitchen, and “Del,” posing as the 13-year-old, invites him in.

Del (hidden camera footage): Just hang out at the counter for a second okay?

Chris Moore: Okay.

Del: So, I know I showered once do you still want to shower again?

Moore:(laughs) Well, I’m kinda stinky.

He gets quite the surprise when the decoy doesn’t walk out.

Hansen (hidden camera footage): What’s up?

Moore: Hi. How are you?

Hansen: Why don’t you have a seat right there.

Instead, he meets me. Remember, none of the men know they’ve been recorded on hidden cameras.

He’s 34-year-old Chris Moore, and like so many of the men I confront, he tries to lie about how old he thinks the boy is.

Moore: I thought he was 18. He told me.

Hansen: You want to try again?

Moore: If he’s younger, I apologize, I didn’t know.

Moore: I made a mistake.

And that isn’t his only mistake. Like many of the other men who show up at our house, while online, he makes it clear he thinks he’s coming for sex with a 13-year-old and he sends a picture of his genitals.

Hansen: You thought it was okay to send this kind of material to a 13-year-old boy, why?

Moore: You’re right. It wasn’t right.

Hansen: Well that’s against the law, right there. What do you have to say for yourself?

Moore: I’m ashamed. I wasn’t thinking right and I feel terrible and this was seriously the first time. And I knew I was taking a huge risk.

Hansen: So you knew what you were doing was wrong?

Moore: (mumbles) yes.

It becomes a tearful performance for an actor who says he’s played many roles.

Moore: I work in background movies.

Hansen: In movies?

Moore: And television.

Hansen: And what do you do in movies and television.

Moore: Background, stand-in work.

Hansen: Like an actor.

Moore: Yeah.

Hansen: What would I have seen you in?

Chris: "Godzilla", "Pearl Harbor," "Never Been Kissed"...

If that’s true, how did he get from being a stand-in for blockbuster movies to standing in our kitchen?

Hansen: Why did you do it then? Tell me what was going on in your mind.

Moore: I don’t know.

Hansen: You know how people will react when they see this? I mean, this does not look good.

Moore: I know.

And it doesn’t look good for the next guy either. Stephen Coates, 56, goes by the screenname “m4pixeleen.” He works in the biotech industry and is a songwriter on the side. He even has a Web site where he sells his work.

He thinks he’s chatting online with a 13-year-old, but it’s actually a Perverted-Justice decoy who set up a  profile on the social networking Web site called MySpace.com. He lies and tells her he’s 42 years old, and as you’ll hear when we read you some of his chat log, it appears he’s trying to gain the girl’s trust.

m4pixeleen (chat transcript): do you talk about sex and things like that?

m4pixeleen: you can tell me anything, it’s ok.

greendaychickk: I have

m4pixeleen: it is fun

m4pixeleen:  you seem like a very sweet girl

He goes on to explain to the girl he thinks is a 13-year-old virgin that they should have oral sex because intercourse is a big step and he adds... “sometimes people just do anal sex first... then you’re still a virgin.”

And then he starts asking about her body. How tall is she? How big are her breasts? And one of the most frequently asked questions, if she has hair in private places. When the decoy says, “not really,” the 56-year-old says “that’s terribly sexy.”

He later sends a picture of his genitals and continues to talk about sex with our decoy posing as a 13-year-old. He tells her he’s trying to be discreet so his wife and son don’t find out. 

Del (hidden camera footage): Hang out at the kitchen counter for a second, I gotta finish brushing my teeth.

Stephen Coates: Okay.

Del: What’s in the bag?

Coates: Oh, nothing really.

It appears the songwriter has brought along some of his own work. But he quickly realizes he won’t be playing it for a child, and soon he’ll be singing a different tune.

Hansen (hidden camera footage): I want to see what’s in your pocket?

Coates: Oh, it’s just a CD.

Hansen: Of what, may I see it?

Coates: It’s just of songs I have.

Hansen: Wnd what are you doing here, Steven?

Coates: Um, I was doing something that I shouldn’t be.

Hansen: And what is that? Why don’t you tell me.

Coates: Sir, I just want to go. Ok, please.

Hansen: What are you doing trying to meet a girl who told you she was 13 years old, Steven?

Coates: I’ve never done such a thing, and I didn’t want to do it.

Hansen: Why’d you do it then?

Coates: Because I’m stupid. I’m absolutely utterly completely stupid.

But apparently not so stupid as this next guy: 40-year-old Daniel Pulido works for a local trucking repair company. He’s hoping to meet a 13-year-old girl home alone.

He’s another one who sent pictures over the Internet of his genitals. Then, he asks the decoy is she’d give him oral sex.

He’s in for a big surprise when I walk in.

Hansen (hidden camera footage): How you doing tonight?

Daniel Pulido: Hello.

Hansen:  Why don’t you have a seat right there please. Do me a favor and keep your hands out of your pockets. What are you up to tonight?

Pulido: Nothing.

Hansen: Nothing or nothing good?

Pulido: Nothing good (laughs).

But he quickly comes up with a story: He tells me he was really here to teach the girl a lesson about the dangers of talking to strangers online.

Hansen: You posed naked on your Web cam so a 13-year-old girl could see it, to teach her a lesson?

Pulido: You could say that.

Hansen: Is this a like a tough love thing?

Pulido: No, no.

Hansen: Did you bring condoms?

Pulido: Yes I did.

Hansen: And what part of the lesson would that be?

Pulido: I wasn’t gonna use it.

Hansen: You were going to give her condoms.

Daniel Pulido may really be the one who needs to learn a lesson. You won’t believe what he admits to me.

Hansen: Do you ever watch Dateline NBC?

Pulido: Yes.

Hansen: Have you ever seen our stories on computer predators?

Pulido: Yes.

Hansen: This is one of them.

And he wasn’t the only one who saw Dateline’s earlier investigations on Internet predators and still showed up. “Southbayguy310” did too, and you won’t believe what we found out about him.

A year ago he was caught talking to a Perverted-Justice volunteer who was posing as a 12-year-old. His name and other personal information were posted once before on Perverted-Justice’s Web site which usually means his employer, family and neighbors were contacted by Perverted-Justice members and directed to his sexually charged chat log. 

But it seems he didn’t get the message. He’s back online with the same screename “southbayguy310.”

This time, he thinks he’s talking to a girl—the picture we sent him is of a “Dateline” staffer when she was 13 years old. Three minutes into the chat, he asks the girl if she’s a virgin and then he wants to know if she’s ever had “sex with a guy from online before?”

The girl says “ya” and so he asks “Do you want to meet and see what’s up?”

That all happens in less than eight minutes from the start of the chat. And as you’ll hear it gets more disgusting:

southbayguy310 (chat transcript): can I videotape us?

girL: r u like gonna sell it?

southbayguy310: lol no

girl: i don’t gotta cam though

southbayguy310: i want to watch it and masturbate to it.

The decoy asks him to bring Mike’s Hard Lemonade and “southbayguy310” says he’ll bring a camera, hoping she’ll let him take naked pictures of her. 

As he’s driving to our house, he calls the decoy to get directions. He finds the house but just as he’s pulling up, another man being arrested outside. He calls the decoy to find out what’s going on Del quickly makes up a story saying her neighbor was arrested for dealing drugs.

Amazingly, the police activity isn’t enough stop him. He comes through the door—32-year-old Keith Williams. He’s got the alcohol and the camera. He doesn’t seem all that surprised to see me.

Hansen (hidden camera footage): Why don’t you come here and have a seat?

Keith Williams: I knew it.

Hansen: You knew what?

Williams: I know, okay.

Hansen: Please sit down and relax.

Williams: Actually I’m not relaxed, I’m not going to give an interview.

Hansen: You’re not going to give an interview.

Hansen: What are you doing here?

Williams: I’m stupid. I knew better when I drove by I just knew better.

Hansen: Then why did you do it anyway?

Williams: I was bored. Look at my eyes you know.

Hansen: So you were bored and you were going to come over to have sex with a 13-year-old girl?

Williams: No, no, I don’t know what I was going to do.

But in his chat he makes “what he was going to do” pretty clear.

Hansen: You want to take pictures of her. Take naked pictures of her?

Williams: I don’t know. I’m not denying anything. It’s all right there.

Hansen: Have you ever heard of a group called Perverted-Justice?

Williams: Yes I have, I know about that. But I’m not saying how old they are.

Hansen: You were posted after talking to a girl who said she was 12. I have the chat log Keith.

Williams: I understand.

Hansen: what would have happened if I wasn’t here, Keith. You show up with booze, what else you got there?

Williams: That’s all it is, just booze.

Hansen: You were going to booze up a 13-year-old girl.

Williams: I’m wrong. Bottom line. I’m wrong. Listen to me, I’m wrong.

Hansen: It’s not your first time down this road.  Do you ever watch Dateline NBC?

Williams: I saw that episode, actually, and that’s why I don’t prefer to be on camera.

But when our cameras come out of hiding, he keeps talking.    

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